[gui-talk] Fw: Updating Adobe Flash Player

[Gerald Levy]

Beware of updateing Adobe Flash Player for Firefox because there is no way 
to prevent the automatic installation of McAfee Security scan Plus, which a 
lot of people on other lists are really bent out of shape over.  Of course, 
you can remove this program manually, but it will only get reinstalled again 
the next time you have to update Flash Player for Firefox.  Adobe really 
seems to be going out of its way to make life miserable for us blind 
computer users.

Gerald


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <lras at sprynet.com>
To: "GUI Talk Mailing List Discussion of the Graphical User Interface" 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: [gui-talk] Fw: Updating Adobe Flash Player


> An update to my update.   This morning I accepted an Adobe Flash Player 
> update on my wife's computer, running Window-Eyes 8.3 and Internet 
> Explorer 11.  I found that the checkbox for not accepting Google Chrome 
> and Google Toolbar (which is now a single checkbox) was accessible and I 
> was able to uncheck it before running the Flash Player update.  My 
> previous experience was last Thursday on a computer running IE 9 and W-E 
> 8.3, where a checkbox was nowhere to be found.  Adobe will probably say it 
> was just an oversight which they have fixed.  I'm glad Adobe fixed this.
>
> But my concern still stands.  Barring any changes in business practices, 
> we have to accept the responsibility of educating all screen reader users 
> of the need to uncheck this default installation of Google products that 
> are detrimental or marginally frustrating to our ability to use the web. 
> Companies that are successfully pushing their technology to us could be 
> required to offer a free installation service for updates that is not 
> encumbered by these extra programs, or they should be strongly encouraged 
> to contribute financially to Freedom Scientific, GW Micro, Dolphin, NV 
> Access and probably AI Squared so that the screen readers we use are made 
> capable of usably handling   the technologies which are being pushed.  The 
> same reasoning applies to Oracle's addition of the Ask toolbar whenever an 
> update must be performed to a Java installation.
>
>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Lloyd Rasmussen
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 9:14 PM
> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player
>
> I didn't have a reader handy when I ran into this situation.  So after the
> Flash update was completed, I used Add/Remove Programs to remove the 
> Google
> toolbar and Google Chrome before they had a chance to run.  In each
> instance, they popped up a survey asking why I was uninstalling those 
> Google
> programs.  I told them that it was because their programs had become a
> default installation with Adobe Flash updates, and that there didn't seem 
> to
> be an accessible way of preventing those defaults from taking effect.  The
> technology exists, and even a few weeks ago you could uncheck those
> programs.  I don't feel kindly to Adobe these days, in addition to Oracle.
> I am concerned about this situation also, because when my wife gets rehab 
> to
> buy a PC for someone, they will inevitably make their systems less useable
> when these security upgrades come along, or they will expose their
> state-bought equipment to security problems that could be prevented.  A 
> lot
> of people are getting computers but have minimal training in the level of
> problem-solving we are discussing.
>
>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike Freeman
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:12 PM
> To: 'Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player
>
> And here's where a reader comes in handy.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerald 
> Levy
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 3:47 AM
> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player
>
>
> For your information, Adobe Flash Player has not been available for 
> download
>
> on the Ninite site for a few months, so the only option is to download it
> from the Adobe site.
>
> Gerald
> ...
>
>
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