[gui-talk] Different plan of attack

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This is a good standpoint. This is an important and critical 
issue, and we need to do something regarding the subject matter. 
At this point, you need to contact a support member of Freedom 
Scientific, or a support member at NVDA-Project or whatever 
screen reader support member directly and discuss these issues. 
They need to know these things right away as then we won't have 
any internet sites accessible. Also, consider speaking to a 
member of that GSN site directly, and don't give up trying to 
explain the subject matter. I'm sure if we are in constant 
persuation about this topic to them, they will fix the problem. 
I've never been to that site or played any games there although 
this topic shall concern any blind computer user at all. This 
world is full of inaccessibility. However, we can fix it! If we 
find a solution, there's always going to be a better way of 
living. and please, please for crying out loud, just don't give 
up!!! If you need any information about contacting freedom 
Sientific, call 1-800-444-4443. Tell them you want to speak with 
Jonathan Mosan or some support specialist,  but please no 
emailing as they're suppose to know this thing right away, and a 
phone call is better than an email; it is like talking to the 
person more live-like. Thanks

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: kenlawrence124 at aol.com
>To: nvda at freelists.org
>Date sent: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:11:08 EST
>Subject: [gui-talk] Different plan of attack


>Hi List members.  Cross posting this question to get different  
feedback on
>this topic.  I've been sending messages of complaint to GSN  
formerly Game
>Show network saying that I'm not able to play the games on the  
site and
>therefore don't have the same chance to win the Oodles points 
sighted  people
>can win to cash in for prizes.  I can only answer the daily  
questions and
>therefore win 50/100 oodles at a time.  It would take me a  
thousand days
>straight just to win enough oodles to cash in for some prizes and  
that is if I
>get all questions right.  I can't even enter the chat during  GSN 
live and
>the only way I can play a game connected to the channel is to 
enter  the GSN
>live games every day.  They say they can't program the site they  
say since
>flash is the standard on game sites they are obviously sticking 
with  it.
>It's funny how they say in replies thanks for being a part of the 
GSN
>community.  I sure feel like a second class citizen.  AOL did the  
right thing so
>why can't the people at GSN?  even when the National  federation 
of the
>blind and gw Micro or Freedom scientific are brought to their  
attention nothing
>changes.  I will not accept the fact that I will never  ever be 
able to win
>all that money on bingo blitz, Yeah I can't even enter those  
drawings.  So
>rather than keep harping to deaf ears, the thought I had in  mind 
is what
>can we do to help make GSN accessible from the screen readers 
point  of view?
> Rather than making the site accessible, what can we do to make  
the screen
>reader accessible to the site.  One of the advantages of using  
flash is
>that it is smaller in terms of drive space.  A version of the  
Adobe flash
>player is less than two MB, Whereas the windows media player or 
the  real
>player are close to or even over 20 MB.  Flash does provide 
better  quality audio
>and video in a smaller player.  So I'd like the opinion of  Jaws,
>Window-eyes, and NVDA users how we can make the screen readers 
work on the  GSN site
>and play the games there.  We can lick the recent CD baby issue 
as  well as
>the Pandora issue too.  of course part of my problem is dial up  
connection,
>and I'm working on going broadband so that will be taken care of  
soon.  So
>the question is, if GSN, CD baby,or Pandora won't make the sites  
work with
>a screen reader, what can we do to make it work the other way  
around?  how
>can we develop screen reading software to work with their  sites?  
This is
>going to take people with site to do it, but I think  especially 
with an
>Open source Screen reader like NVDA we can do it.  If  they won't 
make sites
>accessible, let's try it the other way around.  Many  of my 
friends and the
>members of the computer talk club of NJ are worried that  the 
developers of
>assistive technology won't be able to keep up and in a couple  
years we'll no
>longer have any access to anything on the Internet.  More  and 
more sites
>are going this direction and I think it's up to us to change  it.  
What can we
>do about this issue?  I would ask that some of you  take a look 
at that
>site _www.gsn.com_ (http://www.gsn.com/)  and if  you are already 
registered,
>take a look at the wonder wheel and other games  especially the 
versions of
>games that aren't generally visual like  Jeopardy.  There is no 
reason why
>that isn't accessible when the show  clearly is.  They had blind 
players on
>it.  Family Feud too and why is  the version of Deal or no Deal 
not
>accessible.  Clearly the show is.   Tell me how a blind player 
couldn't go on that
>show Huh?  Let's tackle this  one together.  Thanks Ken.

>I pledge to  participate actively in the efforts of the national 
federation
>of the blind to  achieve equality, opportunity, and security for 
the blind;
>to support the  policies and programs of the federation; and 
abide by it's
>constitution.


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federation
>of the blind to  achieve equality, opportunity, and security for 
the blind;
>to support the  policies and programs of the federation; and 
abide by it's
>constitution.
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