[gui-talk] Different plan of attack

[Mike Freeman]

Flash can be made accessible but few Flash programmers know the ins and outs 
of doing so.

Frankly, were I you, I'd forget the whole thing and rather than waste your 
money on games you know you have zilch chance of winning, why not contribute 
to the Imagination fund where you and all the rest of us win! (grin)

In fact, I wonder if that site is even legal given prohibitions against 
Internet gambling in this country?

Mike Freeman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kenlawrence124 at aol.com>
To: <nvda at freelists.org>
Cc: <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:11 AM
Subject: [gui-talk] Different plan of attack


>
> Hi List members.  Cross posting this question to get different  feedback 
> on
> this topic.  I've been sending messages of complaint to GSN  formerly Game
> Show network saying that I'm not able to play the games on the  site and
> therefore don't have the same chance to win the Oodles points sighted 
> people
> can win to cash in for prizes.  I can only answer the daily  questions and
> therefore win 50/100 oodles at a time.  It would take me a  thousand days
> straight just to win enough oodles to cash in for some prizes and  that is 
> if I
> get all questions right.  I can't even enter the chat during  GSN live and
> the only way I can play a game connected to the channel is to enter  the 
> GSN
> live games every day.  They say they can't program the site they  say 
> since
> flash is the standard on game sites they are obviously sticking with  it.
> It's funny how they say in replies thanks for being a part of the GSN
> community.  I sure feel like a second class citizen.  AOL did the  right 
> thing so
> why can't the people at GSN?  even when the National  federation of the
> blind and gw Micro or Freedom scientific are brought to their  attention 
> nothing
> changes.  I will not accept the fact that I will never  ever be able to 
> win
> all that money on bingo blitz, Yeah I can't even enter those  drawings. 
> So
> rather than keep harping to deaf ears, the thought I had in  mind is what
> can we do to help make GSN accessible from the screen readers point  of 
> view?
> Rather than making the site accessible, what can we do to make  the screen
> reader accessible to the site.  One of the advantages of using  flash is
> that it is smaller in terms of drive space.  A version of the  Adobe flash
> player is less than two MB, Whereas the windows media player or the  real
> player are close to or even over 20 MB.  Flash does provide better 
> quality audio
> and video in a smaller player.  So I'd like the opinion of  Jaws,
> Window-eyes, and NVDA users how we can make the screen readers work on the 
> GSN site
> and play the games there.  We can lick the recent CD baby issue as  well 
> as
> the Pandora issue too.  of course part of my problem is dial up 
> connection,
> and I'm working on going broadband so that will be taken care of  soon. 
> So
> the question is, if GSN, CD baby,or Pandora won't make the sites  work 
> with
> a screen reader, what can we do to make it work the other way  around? 
> how
> can we develop screen reading software to work with their  sites?  This is
> going to take people with site to do it, but I think  especially with an
> Open source Screen reader like NVDA we can do it.  If  they won't make 
> sites
> accessible, let's try it the other way around.  Many  of my friends and 
> the
> members of the computer talk club of NJ are worried that  the developers 
> of
> assistive technology won't be able to keep up and in a couple  years we'll 
> no
> longer have any access to anything on the Internet.  More  and more sites
> are going this direction and I think it's up to us to change  it.  What 
> can we
> do about this issue?  I would ask that some of you  take a look at that
> site _www.gsn.com_ (http://www.gsn.com/)  and if  you are already 
> registered,
> take a look at the wonder wheel and other games  especially the versions 
> of
> games that aren't generally visual like  Jeopardy.  There is no reason why
> that isn't accessible when the show  clearly is.  They had blind players 
> on
> it.  Family Feud too and why is  the version of Deal or no Deal not
> accessible.  Clearly the show is.   Tell me how a blind player couldn't go 
> on that
> show Huh?  Let's tackle this  one together.  Thanks Ken.
>
> I pledge to  participate actively in the efforts of the national 
> federation
> of the blind to  achieve equality, opportunity, and security for the 
> blind;
> to support the  policies and programs of the federation; and abide by it's
> constitution.
>
>
> I pledge to  participate actively in the efforts of the national 
> federation
> of the blind to  achieve equality, opportunity, and security for the 
> blind;
> to support the  policies and programs of the federation; and abide by it's
> constitution.
> _______________________________________________
> gui-talk mailing list
> gui-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> gui-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/gui-talk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com