[gui-talk] Memory issue:

Kenlawrence124 at aol.com Kenlawrence124 at aol.com
Mon Aug 30 17:23:59 UTC 2010


Hi david I take it run Disc clean up without the  regular way of doing it 
on the properties on My computer?  Also sorry if  the whole digest is in this 
reply there is no way to change that in AOL not even  in the 9.5 version 
 
 
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1. Re:  memory issue (David Andrews)
2. Fwd: E-Access Bulletin, August  2010: Access to social
networks; Apple devices;   US consultation on stronger access
regulation. (Steve  Pattison)
3. Don't have much hope for this  (Kenlawrence124 at aol.com)
4. Fwd:  Accessible Voice  Games-August 31 (Steve Pattison)
5. Re: Don't have much hope  for this (Ray Foret Jr)
6. Strange Search Dialogue in Windows  Explorer (Baracco, Andrew  W)


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Message:  1
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:23:19 -0500
From: David Andrews  <dandrews at visi.com>
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List  <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] memory  issue
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It could be that your antivirus and  antispyware programs are doing 
full system scans when you turn on your  machine, and those, along 
with running AOL right away, is to much for your  machine.  Try 
turning on the machine and letting it run for five  minutes before 
launching AOL.

Your free space figures don't strike  me as being off.  Some space 
could be in your recycle bin.  run  start, programs, accessories, 
system, disk cleanup, and get rid of stuff  and see what your free 
space is then.


Dave

At 10:11 AM  8/29/2010, you wrote:
>Hi list members, Ken here with a problem I can't  nail down.  When I  log 
on
>to AOL after about five minutes or  so after signing on I feel the drive
>spinning and spinning like it's  trying to find something or do something.
>There are no other programs  running other then a screen reader and 
>AOL, and In
>   addition to this slowdown I'm getting a Windows vertual memory too low  
we
>are  increasing the size of your paging file, During the  process some 
memory
>requests  maybe denyedWhat is chewing up my  vertual memory Microsoft
>security essentials  andMalwarebytes  scanns come back clean.  This 
>problem seems
>to go  away  after the computer has been on for a while.  What is the 
cause  of
>this and  why is making my harddrive work so hard.  I'm  worried if I con't
>fix this  my drive may meet an early  deth.  Does a dial up modem do this?
>Also  I can't seem to  account for a lost free space on tis drive.  I have 
68
>Plus   Gigabites with Window-eyes in here, Now that's gone, and My space  
is
>down to  65.73 Gigabites.  I have downloaded antivirus,  the Malwarebytes, 
and
>both  the Realspeak Emely and the real speak  Jennifer for Jaws.  I have
>reinstalled an updated thunder and  Firefox.  All the songs I had 
downloaded
>are on CD accept the two  on the machine at the moment, so I can account 
for
>the  amount of  space these things take and it's not 3 gigs.  Any idea  
whaere
>my  space is gone and how I can using a screen reader find  out what is
>causing  this?  Also the Microsoft and Adobe  flash player updated wouldn't
>account  for this lost free  space.  I've had the machine for about a 
>year now.

David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:32:38 +1000
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Subject: [gui-talk] Fwd: E-Access Bulletin,  August 2010: Access to
social  networks; Apple  devices;    US consultation on stronger access
regulation.
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From:    Dan Jellinek  dan at headstar.com
To:       eaccess at headstar.com

+++E-ACCESS BULLETIN
Access To Technology For  All, Regardless Of Ability
- ISSUE 128, August 2010.

A Headstar  Publication.
http://www.headstar.com/eab/ .

Please forward this free  bulletin, so others can sign up to 
receive a copy (details at the  end).


++Issue 128 Contents.

01: Apple Devices  'Revolutionary' For Built-In Accessibility
- iPhone and iPad praised for  integrated approach.

02: Voluntary Compliance To Web Access Standards  
'Inadequate'
- US Justice Department consults on stronger  regulation.

03: Japanese Cloud 'To Improve E-Government  Accessibility'
- Collaborative system gives disabled citizens better public  
access

News in Brief: 04: Equality Shift? - lawyer detects slip in  
government timetable; 05: Inclusion Masters - Middlesex 
University  claims European first; 06: DAISY Diversity - 
audiobook  readers.

Section Two: 'The Inbox' - Readers' Forum.
07: Money Talks  - affordability plea; 08: Links Support - 
reader backs format  choice.

Section Three: E-Access '10 Conference Report - Social  
Networks Discussion Group.
09: Digital Lifeline: Delegates heard how  networks such as 
Facebook can prove a vital social lifeline for people  with 
disabilities who can otherwise be extremely isolated. But 
access  to such networks can be arduous due to inaccessible 
design, reports Dan  Jellinek.

[Contents ends].


++Section One: News.

+01:  Apple Devices 'Revolutionary' For Built-In Accessibility.

Apple's  iPhone and iPad devices are "revolutionary" and 
"game-changing" in  offering built-in accessibility functions for 
people with disabilities,  delegates heard at this year's E-Access 
'10 conference in  London.

Kiran Kaja of the RNIB Digital Accessibility Team told a  
mobile phone workshop that while accessibility applications 
are  available for other smartphones - such as the 'Eyes Free 
Shell' for  Google's  Android phone - the iPhone 3G is a 
"game-changer" because  its accessibility features are built in 
across all its  functions.

Using the standard touch-screen you can move your fingers  
along and the phone reads what is underneath them; and if you 
swipe  down with two fingers it reads from that point to the end, 
Kaja said. A  double-tap with three fingers will magnify the 
screen.

"A lot of  people say they can't use a touch-screen, but when I 
show them this it  really changes their perspectives," he said. 
"People have started asking  why they should pay extra money 
for accessibility on mainstream devices.  So slowly we are 
seeing changing expectations. When Symbian [an operating  
system for mobile phones] was released in 2000, it was two or 
three  years before assistive technology was developed for it, so 
phones could be  out of date before assistive technology 
appears. With the iPhone, I could  use it the same day as my 
sighted friends."

Accessibility features  that are built in by the manufacturer are 
also more stable than added  extras like screen-readers running 
on top of an operating system, Kaja  said.

Apple's new 'iPad' table computer - which functions much 
like  a huge iPhone - was also singled out for praise by Robin 
Spinks, Principal  Manager, Digital Accessibility at RNIB.

The iPad's size meant it was a  "revolutionary" improvement 
for partially-sighted users, who could use it  at a normal 
distance like a more visible smartphone, with applications and  
the keyboard feature all viewed larger, Spinks said.

Used as an  electronic book reader, the iPad can also magnify 
text, and it featured  the same built-in access functions as the 
iPhone 3G such as the double-tap  with three fingers to magnify 
the screen, he said. "One of the advantages  of Apple's much-
criticised "walled garden" approach is that is can build  in 
accessibility to all functions."

Further accessibility features  are likely to be added to 
smartphones in future that make use of the  built-in gyroscopes 
and accelerometers found in most modern phones, said  Kiran 
Kaja. "They are mainly used by games developers now , but 
could  also have uses for people with disabilities," he said. 
Early examples  include the free 'Dasher' app which allows the 
user to tilt and move the  phone with one hand to select items, a 
feature of use to many people with  impaired  mobility:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dasher/id315473092?mt=8
Short  link: http://bit.ly/bQgqbm .

NOTE: E-Access '10 was hosted by E-Access  Bulletin 
publisher Headstar with One Voice for Accessible ICT  
Coalition ( http://www.headstar-events.com/eaccess10 ). For 
more  coverage see feature, this issue.

And you can comment on this story  now, on EAB Live:
http://www.headstar.com/eablive/?p=457 


+02:  Voluntary Compliance To Web Access Standards  
'Inadequate'.

Voluntary application of technical standards on  accessibility of 
web sites to people with disabilities has proved  "inadequate", 
suggesting more formal regulation is needed, the US  
government has said.

In a document issued as part of a public  consultation process 
on four new proposed regulations to extend the  Americans 
with Disabilities Act (ADA) to improve technology access for  
disabled people, the US Department of Justice said: "Voluntary  
standards have generally proved to be sufficient where obvious  
business incentives align with discretionary governing 
standards as,  for example, with respect to privacy and security 
standards designed to  increase consumer confidence in e-
commerce. There has not, however, been  equal success in the 
area of accessibility."

Overall, it says: "It  is clear that the system of voluntary 
compliance has proved inadequate in  providing website 
accessibility to individuals with disabilities" (  
http://www.ada.gov/anprm2010/web%20anprm_2010.htm ).

As well as web  accessibility - covering online goods and 
services - the four 'advance  notices of proposed rulemaking' 
(ANPRMs) cover captioning and video  description in cinemas; 
equipment and furniture; and the widening of how  emergency 
(911) telephone calls can be made.

On captioning and  video, comments are invited on the types of 
technology that could be used  in cinemas to make film 
screenings more accessible, including closed  captioning and 
audio description equipment. The department proposes a  
'sliding compliance schedule', whereby the percentage of 
cinemas  offering such technologies would increase from 10 
per cent in year one to  50 per cent in year five. 

The 'equipment and furniture' notice covers  accessibility of 
ATMs (cash machines) and point-of-sale devices, asking  for 
public comment on access technologies such as voice-operated 
and  tactile systems.

The 'Accessibility of Next Generation 9-1-1' notice  examines 
the possibility of internet-based text or video emergency calls  
being put through to an operator directly, rather than the 
individual  having to go through a third-party 
telecommunications assistant who relays  the call, as is currently 
the case. 

All notice summaries can be  viewed at:
http://www.ada.gov/anprm2010.htm .
And public comments are  invited by the end of the year at:
http://www.regulations.gov/ .

And  you can comment on this story now, on EAB  Live:
http://www.headstar.com/eablive/?p=460 


+03: Japanese  Cloud 'To Improve E-Government 
Accessibility'.

A 'web accessibility  cloud centre' to help Japanese government 
departments improve online  services to elderly and disabled 
people is being built by a consortium led  by IBM  Japan:
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/32265.wss
Short  Link: http://bit.ly/bEpADT 

Working with IT solutions firm the KOA  Corporation and the 
Tottori Prefecture Information-Center (TIC: a third  sector 
Japanese company that supports government IT projects), the  
cloud centre will feature a collaborative system that allows 
citizens  to browse government websites; report any 
accessibility issues they  encounter; and suggest improvements. 
For example, users with visual  impairments will be able to 
easily record difficulties in understanding  text or images. 

Each accessibility request will be stored in a bank  for later 
consultation by designers of government website pages,  
allowing them to address issues raised.

The collaborative aspect of  the web accessibility improvement 
system is based on technology developed  in 2008 by the 
Tokyo arm of IBM Research as part of its Social  Accessibility 
Project examining issues faced by visually impaired internet  
users (see
http://sa.watson.ibm.com ).

And you can comment on  this story now, on EAB Live:
http://www.headstar.com/eablive/?p=464  


++News in Brief:

+04: Equality Shift? The new UK government  has backtracked 
on a firm timetable for implementation of all parts of the  
Equality Act 2010, a leading lawyer has said. Audrey Williams, 
partner  at law firm Eversheds, said that while the coalition 
government has  confirmed the act will begin coming into force 
in October as originally  planned, guidance from the 
Government Equalities Office (GEO) suggests  that some 
elements of the law, such as the extension of public sector  
equality duties and the introduction of rules prohibiting age  
discrimination by service providers, have been put on hold, 
with no  set implementation  date:
http://press.eversheds.com/Latest-views/Eversheds-comment-
Government-announcement-fails-to-extinguish-equality-law-
speculation-717.aspx
Short  link: http://bit.ly/duw6Yc 

+05: Inclusion Masters: A Masters Degree  course and 
Postgraduate Diploma in Digital Inclusion are being offered by  
Middlesex University, in what is claimed to be a European 
first. The  courses focus on the social and ethical issues of 
digital inclusion as  well as technical aspects of access of to 
ICT, with modules including  accessible web design; design for 
all regulation, legislation and  standardisation; and inclusive 
design and user  experience:
http://www.mdx.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate/computing_and_it/
digital_inclusion_msc.aspx
Short  link: http://bit.ly/bRUpjg 

+06: DAISY Diversity: The world's largest  library of 
educational audio textbooks for people with impaired vision,  
the US-based Recording for the Blind & Dyslexic, is working 
with  technology companies to widen the range of reader 
devices on which its  content can be played. First steps include 
availability of the library's  DAISY (Digital Accessible 
Information System) content to its 270,000  members using the 
Intel Reader, a mobile device that magnifies or reads  out text. 
Future plans include availability on Apple iPods and iPad tablet  
computers, E-Access Bulletin has  learned:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/07/prweb4328054.htm
Short  Link: http://bit.ly/drRT9S

[Section One ends].


++Section  Two: 'The Inbox'
- Readers' Forum.

Please email all contributions or  responses to:
inbox at headstar.com .

+07: Money Talks: AnnaMarie  Beresford, a trainer at the 
Sunderland-based community interest company  'Disability Arts 
Empowerment' ( http://www.dartecic.org.uk/ ) that trains  
people who have long term disabilities and mental ill health, 
writes  in with a heartfelt comment about a major accessibility 
issue that is not  always properly recognised: affordability.

"I have found that as many  as 8 out of 10 of our learners 
cannot access the internet due to the  expense of adaptive 
software (as many free to install items just don't cut  it)," 
Beresford says." Also the sheer lack of money and computers 
on  the cheap are often out of their reach even if they can 
access  training.

"I am a deafblind physically disabled person who has mental  
health issues, and it is only the fact that I have been lucky 
enough  to gain employment, and have the knowledge to use 
the 'Access to work'  scheme as well as being a specialist in 
access technology that I can  afford to have the luxury (to me a 
necessity) of being able to access the  web and do many 
functions other people without impairments take for  granted.

"I too have been isolated due to affordability issues with  regard 
to cost of equipment and technology - not to mention the price  
of software! Until this changes many of us will stay  isolated."

[Responses please to inbox at headstar.com].


+08:  Links Support: Fay Rohrlach, a reader from Australia, 
writes in to lend  her support for our recent changes to the 
presentation of web links in the  bulletin - offering a short link 
alternative to longer links, alongside  the original link.

"I would like to agree with you, as... you get all  these letters 
and numbers, which make it very confusing, and half the time  
when you're trying to access something, it's hopeless.

"A shorter  link would be far better, and yes, you can have the 
longer address for the  other link, and that way you are giving a 
person the option to choose what  they want. I'm glad someone 
is doing something out there, to making things  more simpler for 
everyone."

[Further responses please to  inbox at headstar.com].

[Section Two ends].


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++Section Three: E-Access '10 Conference Report
- Social  Networks Discussion Group.

+09: Digital Lifeline
by Dan  Jellinek.

For people with motor disabilities, who may have problems  
leaving the house, communicating or with social confidence, 
online  social networks can be a true liberator, delegates heard 
at this year's  E-Access '10 conference hosted by Headstar and 
E-Access Bulletin with One  Voice for Accessible ICT Coalition 
(  http://www.headstar-events.com/eaccess10 ).

A discussion group on the  accessibility of social networks to 
users with motor disabilities was  hosted by Makayla Lewis of 
the Centre for Human-Computer Interaction  Design, City 
University London, and herself a carer for her parents and a  
voluntary worker for people with cerebral palsy.

People with  disabilities suffer from high rates of depression, 
said Lewis: many may  only see one person a week, their carer. 
To such people social networks  are a good way to share 
experiences and meet new people, even if their  disability is 
severe, she said.

One young woman she had worked with  had no siblings and 
stayed in her room most of the time, said Lewis. "She  just used 
to sit in the corner." For her, social networks had become  
indispensible.

"She says 'I can't socialise without it', it's is  like food to her - 
she's on it from the moment she wakes up to the moment  she 
goes to bed. Social networking allows you to portray yourself 
how  you want", Lewis said. Although the interaction is virtual, 
it can also  help to build real friendships and help boost 
confidence for face to face  communication as well, she said.

The average person with a disability  has 250 friends on 
Facebook, for example, compared with 130 for  non-disabled 
people, Lewis said. Unfortunately, however, many people  
encounter barriers in using such networks, of which the biggest 
is  accessibility. One problem was that while many people with 
motor  disabilities would benefit from technologies such as 
voice recognition and  text-to-speech screen-readers, public 
funding for these expensive tools is  geared towards people 
with impaired vision.

"People with motor  disabilities are given big keys and so on. 
Screen-readers would be very  useful but they are not funded 
for that. You never find a screen-reader on  a list of aids for 
them - they are not considered necessary for people  with motor 
impairments. Funding is geared towards blindness."

The  problem can be even more basic, Lewis said: many 
occupational therapists,  GPs and users themselves  don't have 
the technical awareness or  understanding to know what tools 
are available to help people access  computers. "They don't 
know the stuff is out there. The way you find out  about access 
technologies these days is on the internet, but if you don't  have 
access to the internet..."

Some people with severe  disabilities are helped in accessing 
computers by their carers, but this  means their interactions 
cannot be independent and can be hampered by a  lack of trust, 
Lewis said. "If you get tired, and a carer types for you,  how is 
that independent communication? How is that private  
communication? A carer might leave after a few weeks, and a 
new one  comes. So people can't always trust them straight 
away, and just ask them  to send messages online like 'I'm fine, 
see you soon' - they don't open up  and say what they want to 
say."

There are also problems with the  design of the main social 
networks, Lewis said, not least that the main  sites often change 
their layout, which can present huge challenges to  someone 
accessing a computer using a tool like a switch, who has  
learned over painstaking hours to navigate one layout only to 
find it  has all been changed around. "With Facebook, they are 
always changing the  site. Using a switch, you learn one format 
but then all of a sudden they  rearrange the layout and task 
structure."

One answer might be for  sites like Facebook to have a fixed 
layout of their core features, such as  your friends list and your 
profile, which would remain stable across  redesigns, she said. 
Another might be to offer a simpler, pared-down  version of the 
site which only presented the core features. However  Facebook 
had removed just such a simpler version, 'Facebook Lite', for  
commercial reasons, despite it being used by many people with 
severe  cerebral palsy, Lewis said.

Where changes are made, more understandable  and relevant 
help could also be offered to users in working out what the  
differences were, she said."Often changes are made to a site 
and  people just have to work it out. They could be uploading 
photos showing  how to use the new site step by step, like 
Twitter does online, with  arrows."

People with disabilities often prefer help information that is  not 
text-based, such as videos or avatars, Lewis said. But they want  
to see images that are relevant to their own lives: "Many people 
with  disabilities want help from an avatar who is also 
disabled".

Apart  from layout, many problems are caused by the small size 
of online features  which can be not only hard to see but 
extremely hard to use for people  with motor impairments, she 
said. Thus for example Facebook features such  as the 'like' 
button to express your approval for something is too small  for 
use by people with impaired motor control.

Because of the way  Facebook is formatted - text size is hard-
coded in - it s pages are also  hard to magnify, Lewis said: users 
can zoom in using their own  magnification tools, but the result 
is pixellated.

Nevertheless,  many people persevere, she said: one user she 
knows highglights all the  text from her Facebook news feed 
every hour; pastes it over into Word,  where she can increase 
the text size smoothly;  writes her replies or  posts in Word; 
pastes them back across to Facebook; and then spends 10  
minutes trying to click on the 'update' button, because it is so  
small.

The fact someone is prepared to go to all this trouble  "shows 
you how important it is for some people", said Lewis.

When  asked about accessibility, Facebook tends to say that 
only a small number  of people with disabilities are using the 
site, but one of the main  reasons for this is the inaccessibility 
of the 'Captcha' system of keying  in distorted words that is 
used for registration to the site, Lewis said.  Also, while there 
are tools specifically aimed at helping people with  disabilities 
access Facebook and other networks, there is low awareness of  
them, she said.

Of course, Facebook is not the only network people  can use, 
but the others are not much better, Lewis said. "MySpace is  
terrible. Bebo is better, but it is aimed at young people."

Some  other communities are set up specifically by and for 
people with certain  disabilities, the workshop heard, such as 
Living With Ataxia (LWA -  http://www.livingwithataxia.org), 
set up using the 'Ning' platform which  allows anyone to set up 
a social network.

Alan Thomas, UK Community  Manager of LWA,told delegates 
that such focused networks helped people  with particularly 
problems overcome feelings of exclusion, by allowing  them to 
share experiences.

On the other hand, people with  disabilities also need to be able 
to access the same mainstream networks  as everyone else, 
Lewis said. "Often networks are divided. Maybe they  should 
link up more and integrate more.

"It is disgusting that some  people have to go to such lengths to 
do something that is so fundamental  for all human beings - to 
communicate with each other."

NOTE: On 21  September Makayla Lewis is hosting the 'Web 
Accessibility London  Unconference 2010'. At time of writing 
this was oversubscribed but a  waiting list had been  established:
http://a11yldn.eventbrite.com/

And you can comment on  this story now, on EAB Live:
http://www.headstar.com/eablive/?p=468  

[Section Three ends].


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Message:  3
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:05:56 EDT
From:  Kenlawrence124 at aol.com
To: b-f-b at yahoogroups.com
Cc:  gui-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [gui-talk] Don't have much hope for  this
Message-ID: <3d43f.16c9578a.39ad14c4 at aol.com>
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Hi FB friends the request can't be sent  count now reads seven.  I've  
never 
run into this before I  should tell you all in advance writing to the  
accessible email  address on this issue maybe is a lost cause.  I got an  
auto  
reply that says if this is to do with assistive technology they'll  reply  
but 
if it's a general complaint no reply will be sent. so I'm  guessing I'll  
never know if this is fixed unless I try over and over  and over and over 
again  
even if it takes years.  Nice way to  reach 500,000,000 users Huh?  Any  
other ideas?  how and  why am I running into this all of the sudden and why 
 no 
explaination  why can't this friend request be sent.  Sending this to   
Gui-talk of National federation of the blind and maybe it's a issue with  a 
 screen 
reader maybe not.   


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 31  Aug 2010 00:34:50 +1000
From: Steve Pattison  <srp at internode.on.net>
To: Access L <access-l at access-l.com>,  CUG Members
<Members at bcacug.org>,   VIP-L  <vip-l at freelists.org>
Subject: [gui-talk] Fwd:  Accessible Voice  Games-August 31
Message-ID:  <20100831003449.EDDF.225DF185 at internode.on.net>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

This online event will be held in the  VIP Conduit voice chat community
at www.vipconduit.com.   -Steve.

From:    Pauline at vipconduit.com
To:     vip-announce at vipconduit.com

Tuesday, August 31

David  Greenwood will be hosting the "Voice Games" event, beginning on
Tuesday,  August 31, at 9:00PM Eastern, in the VIP Events Center.
During the sessions  he will be assisting people with games he has produced.
Some of the games  he has written are fairly complex, and an opportunity to
ask   questions, receive answers, as well as an
online demo will help people  enjoy the games more thoroughly.

Here is what David says about the  first session.

This is the first in hopefully many workshops on  accessible games.
The first session will work on demystifying some of the  concepts and
features in the relatively new game Time of Conflict.
We  will field questions on everything from the basics to some of the  more
useful but seemingly arcane elements of this war-time strategy  game.
While this workshop targets people who have tried the game and would  like 
to
get more from it, the session may also serve as a good introduction  for
those who are new to the game.

David welcomes all who are  interested, and encourages you to take the
opportunity to benefit from his  knowledge and experience with voice games.


Please take a moment to  visit the VIP Forums.

You might want to set the Forums email to all  traffic for the Accessible 
Games as well as other available  forums.
Then, you will be able to receive messages posted to the forum in  your 
inbox.

Go to the VIPConduit Forums link below the chat frame,  and then, to the 
heading offering the email options for the forums you  choose.
You can make your choices under the options you will be  offered.

Regards Steve
Email:  srp at internode.on.net
MSN  Messenger:  internetuser383 at hotmail.com
Skype:   steve1963
Twitter:   steve9782



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Message:  5
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:47:48 -0500
From: Ray Foret Jr  <rforetjr at comcast.net>
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List  <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Don't have much hope  for this
Message-ID:  <BF76910A-A6B2-49F9-AEDA-43B6E4177F52 at comcast.net>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Could you be clear on exactly what the  problem is?  All you seem to say is 
that you have a friend who has a  problem, but, you're not sure it's an 
accessibility issue.  Without a  description of the problem, how on Earth can 
we even have a clew how to  help?  Just about all that's in your message is 
frustration but with not  a word of explanation.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted  Ray!!!

A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!

E-Mail:
rforetjr at  comcast dot net
Skype Name:
barefootedray

On Aug 30, 2010, at  9:05 AM, Kenlawrence124 at aol.com wrote:

Hi FB friends the request can't  be sent count now reads seven.  I've  
never 
run into this before  I should tell you all in advance writing to the  
accessible email  address on this issue maybe is a lost cause.  I got an  
auto  
reply that says if this is to do with assistive technology they'll  reply  
but 
if it's a general complaint no reply will be sent. so I'm  guessing I'll  
never know if this is fixed unless I try over and over  and over and over 
again  
even if it takes years.  Nice way to  reach 500,000,000 users Huh?  Any  
other ideas?  how and  why am I running into this all of the sudden and why 
 no 
explaination  why can't this friend request be sent.  Sending this to   
Gui-talk of National federation of the blind and maybe it's a issue with  a 
 screen 
reader maybe not.   
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Message:  6
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 08:34:54 -0700
From: "Baracco, Andrew W"  <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List"  <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [gui-talk] Strange Search Dialogue in  Windows Explorer
Message-ID:
<EE84AA38E4FCDD42AE64E566B9247B9A08568331 at VHAV22MSGA1.v22.med.va.gov>
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I am using Windows XP, and the other day  I apparently did something that
changed how I access folders in Windows  Explorer or My Computer.

It used to be that I could hit ENTER on a  highlighted folder and be
taken into the folder and could view the list of  files.  Now, when I hit
ENTER on a highlighted folder, a search  dialogue appears saying
something like, "Type the first few letters of the  file name".  And, if
I am at that highlighted foler and I hit the ALT  key to go into the File
menu, rather than the first choice being "Open",  now the first choice is
"Search".  And, before you say to hit CONTROL  E, this only brings up
another search dialogue.  How do I get rid of  this Search thing so I can
go back to opening the folder by hitting  ENTER.  As it is now, I can hit
ALT, and arrow down to Open and hit  ENTER, but I don't want the  extra
steps.

Andy




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