[gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Tue Apr 7 06:06:38 UTC 2009

Dave,

I've been saying that I regularly go to the NlS home page, which is on my 
Favorites list in IE7, and usually click through to the Search the Catalogue 
page. I'm sorry if you didn't notice my saying that. What I'm asking is, if 
you want to start there and know which link to look for in order to go to 
the Talking books Topics section, is there a link on the home page? That's 
all I wanted to know. by this time, if I weren't lazy, I would have just 
gone to the NLS home page myself and simply gone through the links to see if 
one of them said something about Talking Book topics. Again, though I deeply 
appreciated Lloyd giving me a direct link, I just really wanted to know how 
to get there so I'd always know where it was, in that way. I love a direct 
link as much as the next guy, but I like to have an idea of the landscape as 
I traverse it. Not a big fan of learning to do things in various programs 
only by hotkeys without ever understanding what is in the menus of the 
program and how its functions are organized. That's just me, I suppose. A 
lot of screen reader users seem to learn how to run programs and find their 
way around their computers sort of in this linear way as if they were in a 
tunnel, always going forward. I'm not explaining that quite well enough. But 
anyway, I will just go there and see if there's a link that I never happened 
to see because I always just stop when I get to Search the Catalogue.

Okay, I just went there and poked around the home page links. Yep! There is 
a link called Read Talking Book topics! That's the ticket.

Whew. I'm sorry to have misled anyone, if I did. It's all right, now. In 
fact it's a gas. And so forth.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

The NLS site is www.loc.gov/nls

Dave

At 10:10 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote:
>Oh. Well, that would sure be handy. If it had been available earlier, I'd
>have done that for years by now instead of bothering with that diskette. 
>Can
>you find it just by going to nls.org and find a link on the home page? Or
>what? Thanks.
>thgat ----- Original Message -----
>From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>
>I believe you can now download the file which comes on your diskette.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:34 PM
>To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>Dave,
>
>Well, next time I get a new PC, I won't worry too much about it having a
>floppy drive. The only thing it ever gets used for is the diskette of the
>NLS Talking Book Topics text files that I do appreciate receiving quarterly
>or whatever it is. Maybe there's some other way to get Talking Book Topics.
>No, not Braille. I don't read Braille. And I'm not going to listen through
>one of those interminable lists of books I don't care about in each 
>category
>
>just to hope I hear one or two titles or authors I'm interested in. So if
>someone knows what I'd do if I didn't have a floppy drive, about this I
>mean, speak up, okay?
>
>And I just didn't remember right. I misremembered Apple computers as never
>having had floppy drives, starting back with the lode pre-Macintosh models.
>But they gave it up  ore recently? Okay. Thanks.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:49 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>
>Joel:  A couple minor points -- you can still order some PC's with a
>floppy drive, although their inclusion these days is pretty
>rare.  Secondly, Mac's have not had a floppy drive for some time 7 or
>8 years I think, but they used to have one.
>
>Dave
>
>At 09:56 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> >Floppy disk? Well, I still have an A drive where I can use 3 1/2 inch
> >floppies, myself, and my Dell is about four years old. I didn't know they
> >didn't make the slot anymore. I mean on PCs, not Macs. I know Macs don't
> >and
> >never did have a floppy drive, in the old days or more recently.
> >
> >But that's at the very top of my tower, practically, I thought this thing
> >was down where the USB ports are. Also, what sort of player are you 
> >talking
> >about? What does that have to do with this? I'm confused. Someone must 
> >get
> >this, but between floppies and some sort of player, i don't get what 
> >you're
> >saying.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> >To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 6:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> >
> >
> >One reason it's not universal is that just a few years ago people were
> >still
> >using floppies and that space in the front of the computer was used up by
> >their player.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:29 PM
> >To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> >
> >Dave,
> >
> >that sounds like such an obvious and practical feature for a personal
> >computer. hard to believe that's not nearly universal. Interesting.
> >or rfor
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 1:55 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> >
> >
> >Finally, Joel, some computers -- particularly laptops have built-in
> >card readers that accept one or more types of cards.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >At 03:18 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> > >yeah, you're right. When I read an occaisonal review of a camera, or 
> > >talk
> > >to
> > >a friend about something they did with their camera, I remember hearing
> > >about jut plugging a cable into the USB port. Okay. So they don't all
> > >have
> > >these multiple outlet gismos. I see.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> > >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:26 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > >
> > >
> > >They may have card readers, or those external devices, like cameras,
> > >may have an USB connection that they can connect to their PC with a
> > >cable.
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >At 09:51 AM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> > > >you must be talking about things I don't use except within the body 
> > > >of
> > > >my
> > > >own computer, right? Like a memory stick from another computer, or 
> > > >the
> > > >memory cards of various sorts that you stick into things like blind
> > > >reading
> > > >devices or digital cameras, stuff like that. Now am I geting it?  You
> > > >mean
> > > >all my normally sighted friends who have digital cameras all have 
> > > >some
> > > >sort
> > > >of card reader that comes with it and plugs into their USB port where
> > > >I've
> > > >got my thumb drive plugged in and sometimes take it out and plug in 
> > > >my
> > > >mobile .mp3 player so I can copy a music file to it or copy an
> > > >audible.com
> > > >book from Audible Manager to it?
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> > > >To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:05 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Not quite right.  This won't accept thumb drives.  It reads various
> > > >kinds
> > > >of
> > > >memory sticks and cards.
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> > > >[mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > >On
> > > >Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> > > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:31 AM
> > > >To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> > > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > > >
> > > >Dave,
> > > >
> > > >Well, I have one thumb drive stuck into a front-side USB port all the
> > > >time
> > > >to which I copy various things I want to keep backed up from my hard
> > > >drive.
> > > >So if I'm understanding you, this is some sort of device that 
> > > >provides
> > > >extra
> > > >
> > > >input slots for more such things, sort of the way a power strip lets
> > > >you
> > > >plug a bunch of devices into one outlet? And when you select one of 
> > > >the
> > > >things you've got attached to it, it shows up in Windows Explorerr 
> > > >just
> > > >the
> > > >way my one and only thumb drive shows up now? Is that pretty much how
> > > >it
> > > >works? It's a thing that plugs into that USB port and sits on the 
> > > >desk
> > > >in
> > > >front of your computer and has a few slots in it for a few thumb
> > > >drives?
> > > >
> > > >At least I understand it isn't a gypsy lady who reads Tarot cards.
> > > >That's
> > > >the only meaning I could think of, which is what such fortune tellers
> > > >are
> > > >generally called. Card readers or Tarot card readers. That's Taroh, 
> > > >Mr.
> > > >Jaws.
> > > >
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> > > >Message -----
> > > >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> > > >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:16 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >A card reader is a small device that hooks up to your computer,
> > > >usually via an USB connection, and accepts one or more flash storage
> > > >cards, such as SD or compact flash, or memory sticks.  The card then
> > > >appears to your computer as does another drive so you can move files
> > > >to and from it.
> > > >
> > > >Dave
> > > >
> > > >At 06:50 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:
> > > > >Stupid question of the day: what's a card reader?
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
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> > > > >Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:05 PM
> > > > >Subject: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I just bought a card reader and it came with a disc which included
> > > > >the
> > > > >print
> > > > >user's manual in PDF format.  I think this will happen more often
> > > > >which
> > > > >will
> > > > >make life just a little easier.
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