[gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Tue Apr 7 04:38:32 UTC 2009


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Dave

At 10:10 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote:
>Oh. Well, that would sure be handy. If it had been available earlier, I'd
>have done that for years by now instead of bothering with that diskette. Can
>you find it just by going to nls.org and find a link on the home page? Or
>what? Thanks.
>thgat ----- Original Message -----
>From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>
>I believe you can now download the file which comes on your diskette.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:34 PM
>To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>Dave,
>
>Well, next time I get a new PC, I won't worry too much about it having a
>floppy drive. The only thing it ever gets used for is the diskette of the
>NLS Talking Book Topics text files that I do appreciate receiving quarterly
>or whatever it is. Maybe there's some other way to get Talking Book Topics.
>No, not Braille. I don't read Braille. And I'm not going to listen through
>one of those interminable lists of books I don't care about in each category
>
>just to hope I hear one or two titles or authors I'm interested in. So if
>someone knows what I'd do if I didn't have a floppy drive, about this I
>mean, speak up, okay?
>
>And I just didn't remember right. I misremembered Apple computers as never
>having had floppy drives, starting back with the lode pre-Macintosh models.
>But they gave it up  ore recently? Okay. Thanks.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:49 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>
>Joel:  A couple minor points -- you can still order some PC's with a
>floppy drive, although their inclusion these days is pretty
>rare.  Secondly, Mac's have not had a floppy drive for some time 7 or
>8 years I think, but they used to have one.
>
>Dave
>
>At 09:56 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> >Floppy disk? Well, I still have an A drive where I can use 3 1/2 inch
> >floppies, myself, and my Dell is about four years old. I didn't know they
> >didn't make the slot anymore. I mean on PCs, not Macs. I know Macs don't
> >and
> >never did have a floppy drive, in the old days or more recently.
> >
> >But that's at the very top of my tower, practically, I thought this thing
> >was down where the USB ports are. Also, what sort of player are you talking
> >about? What does that have to do with this? I'm confused. Someone must get
> >this, but between floppies and some sort of player, i don't get what you're
> >saying.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> >To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 6:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> >
> >
> >One reason it's not universal is that just a few years ago people were
> >still
> >using floppies and that space in the front of the computer was used up by
> >their player.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:29 PM
> >To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> >
> >Dave,
> >
> >that sounds like such an obvious and practical feature for a personal
> >computer. hard to believe that's not nearly universal. Interesting.
> >or rfor
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 1:55 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> >
> >
> >Finally, Joel, some computers -- particularly laptops have built-in
> >card readers that accept one or more types of cards.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >At 03:18 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> > >yeah, you're right. When I read an occaisonal review of a camera, or talk
> > >to
> > >a friend about something they did with their camera, I remember hearing
> > >about jut plugging a cable into the USB port. Okay. So they don't all
> > >have
> > >these multiple outlet gismos. I see.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> > >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:26 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > >
> > >
> > >They may have card readers, or those external devices, like cameras,
> > >may have an USB connection that they can connect to their PC with a
> > >cable.
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >At 09:51 AM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> > > >you must be talking about things I don't use except within the body of
> > > >my
> > > >own computer, right? Like a memory stick from another computer, or the
> > > >memory cards of various sorts that you stick into things like blind
> > > >reading
> > > >devices or digital cameras, stuff like that. Now am I geting it?  You
> > > >mean
> > > >all my normally sighted friends who have digital cameras all have some
> > > >sort
> > > >of card reader that comes with it and plugs into their USB port where
> > > >I've
> > > >got my thumb drive plugged in and sometimes take it out and plug in my
> > > >mobile .mp3 player so I can copy a music file to it or copy an
> > > >audible.com
> > > >book from Audible Manager to it?
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> > > >To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:05 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Not quite right.  This won't accept thumb drives.  It reads various
> > > >kinds
> > > >of
> > > >memory sticks and cards.
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > >On
> > > >Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> > > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:31 AM
> > > >To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> > > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > > >
> > > >Dave,
> > > >
> > > >Well, I have one thumb drive stuck into a front-side USB port all the
> > > >time
> > > >to which I copy various things I want to keep backed up from my hard
> > > >drive.
> > > >So if I'm understanding you, this is some sort of device that provides
> > > >extra
> > > >
> > > >input slots for more such things, sort of the way a power strip lets
> > > >you
> > > >plug a bunch of devices into one outlet? And when you select one of the
> > > >things you've got attached to it, it shows up in Windows Explorerr just
> > > >the
> > > >way my one and only thumb drive shows up now? Is that pretty much how
> > > >it
> > > >works? It's a thing that plugs into that USB port and sits on the desk
> > > >in
> > > >front of your computer and has a few slots in it for a few thumb
> > > >drives?
> > > >
> > > >At least I understand it isn't a gypsy lady who reads Tarot cards.
> > > >That's
> > > >the only meaning I could think of, which is what such fortune tellers
> > > >are
> > > >generally called. Card readers or Tarot card readers. That's Taroh, Mr.
> > > >Jaws.
> > > >
> > > >Tator aseEpxloerrer Explroer as if deivce dvice back3eba----- Original
> > > >Message -----
> > > >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> > > >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:16 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >A card reader is a small device that hooks up to your computer,
> > > >usually via an USB connection, and accepts one or more flash storage
> > > >cards, such as SD or compact flash, or memory sticks.  The card then
> > > >appears to your computer as does another drive so you can move files
> > > >to and from it.
> > > >
> > > >Dave
> > > >
> > > >At 06:50 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:
> > > > >Stupid question of the day: what's a card reader?
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> > > > >To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > > >Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:05 PM
> > > > >Subject: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I just bought a card reader and it came with a disc which included
> > > > >the
> > > > >print
> > > > >user's manual in PDF format.  I think this will happen more often
> > > > >which
> > > > >will
> > > > >make life just a little easier.
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