[gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Tue Apr 7 15:27:16 UTC 2009

if you really really want a floppy drive, I believe that there are USB
floppy drives available.

Andy

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On Behalf Of David Andrews
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Joel:  A couple minor points -- you can still order some PC's with a
floppy drive, although their inclusion these days is pretty rare.
Secondly, Mac's have not had a floppy drive for some time 7 or
8 years I think, but they used to have one.

Dave

At 09:56 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
>Floppy disk? Well, I still have an A drive where I can use 3 1/2 inch 
>floppies, myself, and my Dell is about four years old. I didn't know 
>they didn't make the slot anymore. I mean on PCs, not Macs. I know Macs

>don't and never did have a floppy drive, in the old days or more
recently.
>
>But that's at the very top of my tower, practically, I thought this 
>thing was down where the USB ports are. Also, what sort of player are 
>you talking about? What does that have to do with this? I'm confused. 
>Someone must get this, but between floppies and some sort of player, i 
>don't get what you're saying.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 6:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>
>One reason it's not universal is that just a few years ago people were 
>still using floppies and that space in the front of the computer was 
>used up by their player.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>On Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:29 PM
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>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>Dave,
>
>that sounds like such an obvious and practical feature for a personal 
>computer. hard to believe that's not nearly universal. Interesting.
>or rfor
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
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>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 1:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>
>Finally, Joel, some computers -- particularly laptops have built-in 
>card readers that accept one or more types of cards.
>
>Dave
>
>At 03:18 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> >yeah, you're right. When I read an occaisonal review of a camera, or 
> >talk to a friend about something they did with their camera, I 
> >remember hearing about jut plugging a cable into the USB port. Okay. 
> >So they don't all have these multiple outlet gismos. I see.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
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> >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:26 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> >
> >
> >They may have card readers, or those external devices, like cameras, 
> >may have an USB connection that they can connect to their PC with a
cable.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >At 09:51 AM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> > >you must be talking about things I don't use except within the body

> > >of my own computer, right? Like a memory stick from another 
> > >computer, or the memory cards of various sorts that you stick into 
> > >things like blind reading devices or digital cameras, stuff like 
> > >that. Now am I geting it?  You mean all my normally sighted friends

> > >who have digital cameras all have some sort of card reader that 
> > >comes with it and plugs into their USB port where I've got my thumb

> > >drive plugged in and sometimes take it out and plug in my mobile 
> > >.mp3 player so I can copy a music file to it or copy an audible.com

> > >book from Audible Manager to it?
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
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> > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:05 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > >
> > >
> > >Not quite right.  This won't accept thumb drives.  It reads various

> > >kinds of memory sticks and cards.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> > >[mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:31 AM
> > >To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > >
> > >Dave,
> > >
> > >Well, I have one thumb drive stuck into a front-side USB port all 
> > >the time to which I copy various things I want to keep backed up 
> > >from my hard drive.
> > >So if I'm understanding you, this is some sort of device that 
> > >provides extra
> > >
> > >input slots for more such things, sort of the way a power strip 
> > >lets you plug a bunch of devices into one outlet? And when you 
> > >select one of the things you've got attached to it, it shows up in 
> > >Windows Explorerr just the way my one and only thumb drive shows up

> > >now? Is that pretty much how it works? It's a thing that plugs into

> > >that USB port and sits on the desk in front of your computer and 
> > >has a few slots in it for a few thumb drives?
> > >
> > >At least I understand it isn't a gypsy lady who reads Tarot cards. 
> > >That's the only meaning I could think of, which is what such 
> > >fortune tellers are generally called. Card readers or Tarot card
readers. That's Taroh, Mr.
> > >Jaws.
> > >
> > >Tator aseEpxloerrer Explroer as if deivce dvice back3eba----- 
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> > >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
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> > >Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:16 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
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> > >
> > >A card reader is a small device that hooks up to your computer, 
> > >usually via an USB connection, and accepts one or more flash 
> > >storage cards, such as SD or compact flash, or memory sticks.  The 
> > >card then appears to your computer as does another drive so you can

> > >move files to and from it.
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >At 06:50 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:
> > > >Stupid question of the day: what's a card reader?
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >I just bought a card reader and it came with a disc which 
> > > >included the print user's manual in PDF format.  I think this 
> > > >will happen more often which will make life just a little easier.
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