[nfbwatlk] Anybody know about Facebook and photo albums?

Mon Oct 14 15:18:42 UTC 2013

I can see that this thread merits a response (I was going to ignore it and
just let you members rant!).

First, we *do* have a Facebook page; Marci Carpenter is in charge of it. If
you are dissatisfied with it or have ideas for changes that might make the
page more appealing while not making the task so onerous that Marci doesn't
want to take it on, please contact her.

Second, it takes participants submitting photos -- photogenic and otherwise
-- to make a Facebook photo wall worth viewing. Just dreaming about it won't
cut it. So I suggest that anyone who advocates photos for the wall has the
moral obligation to submit five photos to Marci.

Third, if Mr. Zuckerberg (sp) was as interested in easy information access
by all as he is in prophets, I submit he'd make a simple interface that
didn't change every seventy-five nanoseconds. I just don't think it's worth
the heartburn of continuously learning a Facebook interface in order to
engage in what I consider vacuous trivialities for conversation. Anyone who
wishes to exchange ideas with me knows they can write to k7uij at panix.com,
text me at (360) 241-5273 or contact me on HeyTell.

Fourth, speaking of HeyTell, may I remind all those with iPhones that there
is an NFB of WA HeyTell group and you can text or email me, requesting that
I add you to the group. So far, the group rules seem to reflect those of
this group -- blindness- or NFB-related and Mariners and Seahawk
conversation although I confess that Walt Cone and I have strayed a bit to
*all* the baseball playoffs.

Cheers!

Mike Freeman, President
NFB of Washington

P.S. I'll issue a challenge of my own -- I don't know what the prize is but
... How about the challenge of getting Gary Mackenstadt proficient with an
iPhone? (YEE HAW)

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbwatlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy
Bennett
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:14 PM
To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Anybody know about Facebook and photo albums?

It all depends on who is putting up money for the affiliate for me to
take this challenge on. :)

But if we had a Facebook page with riveting pictures of our chapter's
events, and descriptions of course, it would appeal to lots of people.

Cindy

On 10/13/13, Mike Mello <mike at mello.com> wrote:
> Haha :)
> I do wish her the best of luck.
>
> Mike Mello.
>
> mike at mello.com
> (208) 301-0565
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbwatlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
> Portillo
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:20 PM
> To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Anybody know about Facebook and photo albums?
>
> OK.  I challenge Cindy to convert Mike from being a luddite to being in
the
> know...in the 21st century. <grin>  Who's with me on this?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbwatlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Freeman
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:14 PM
> To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Anybody know about Facebook and photo albums?
>
>
> Cindy:
>
> Your post wasn't "all over the place"; I thought you did a great job of
> explaining a basically irrational process. (big grin)
>
> Thank you.
>
> Mike Freeman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbwatlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy
> Bennett
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:45 PM
> To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Anybody know about Facebook and photo albums?
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Hopefully, I can provide some insight.
>
> Facebook has changed over the years, and what used to be a pretty
> accessible
> process of uploading 5 photos at a time and entering the captions for said
> photos in an edit box corresponding to each browse button has become a lot
> less accessible. The good old days.
>
> Anyway, that is my argument for using the mobile site instead.
>
> I used to also upload tons of photos from my iPhone. I think there is a
way
> to designate these photos other than iOS photos, but I never did this.
> Again, back in the good old iOS days, you could custom label your photos.
> But iOS 6 brought the rise of changing time stamps on photos. So not only
> could they not be custom labeled, but their labels would change from
> something like 5 minutes ago, to 1 hour ago to finally the date a few days
> later. So it became very hard to keep track of these photos. The only way
I
> can do it is to remember that the most recent photo is the one I want to
> post, or the third most recent, or something like that. Then, Facebook
> updated so that the most recent photo shows at the top of the list whereas
> the most recent photo in my camera role shows up last. I think this can be
> switched in iPhone settings. There are 2 ways to add photos to Facebook
> from
> your iPhone. You can either add them from the Facebook app itself or
> through
> your pictures app. To add photos from Facebook, double tap the "photo"
> button in the Facebook app. You will then be taken to thumbnails of your
> camera role. I think that you can somehow change albums since now you can
> designate albums in your camera role, but I have never done this. Once you
> find the thumbnail you wish to add, double tap on it. VO will give you no
> indication that you have selected this photo, so if you are unsure, you
> should cancel the post and begin again. The UI on this screen is really
> crappy, and you will have a difficult time swiping. In my experience, you
> want to add a photo that is pretty close to the top of the thumbnails, in
> other words, more recent. You will not have a ton of trouble swiping
> through
> the photos, but more immense difficulty finding the button to attach the
> photo to a post. This button is in the bottom right corner, and I have to
> find it by putting my finger near that place on the screen until I happen
> to
> find it. At that point, I double tap the button and the screen will change
> to a view where I can search a location, write a caption to go with the
> photo and tag other people in the photo. The location finder contains a
> search box and some suggestions of locations near you. It works pretty
well
> in that if you conduct a search, relevant results will show and double
> tapping the desired location will bring you back to the screen where you
> can
> enter a caption. This is also pretty simple, just a text box. If you want
> to
> tag people, double tap the "choose friends" button. You will be brought to
> a
> screen with suggested people. If your people are not on this list, you can
> then use the table index to find the beginning letter of their last name.
> This table takes some playing with as sometimes it is hard to focus and
> sometimes you inadvertently end up back at the top in the list of
suggested
> people. If you want to tag someone, double tap their name. Again, VO will
> give you no indication that you have chosen this person; you just have to
> trust that this happened. You can either press the "done" button or
> continue
> finding people to tag. When you are finished editing your post, it will
say
> something like this if you read over the edit box.
>
> "Picture caption at location if specified with these people if specified."
>
> Pressing the "post" button will post your picture to Facebook. The photo
> can
> be accessed by visiting your Timeline and in your "mobile uploads" album
> under the photos tab on Facebook Mobile. I am not sure how to find
specific
> albums using your Facebook app; but you can find them on the mobile
> website.
>
> As you can see, this is a tedious process that typically requires more
> problem solving when a new Facebook update comes out, so I only have the
> patience to add a few photos at a time.
>
> The other way to add photos using your iPhone is through the photos app.
> You
> can press the "action" button which makes every photo selectable. This
> means
> that double tapping a thumbnail will select it rather than open the photo
> to
> fill the screen. There are a series of buttons at the bottom of the screen
> such as delete and share. Pressing the share button will bring up an alert
> message with a variety of sharing mechanisms that you can choose. Facebook
> is one of these.
> Before I continue, you must connect your Facebook account with your phone
> in
> the Facebook menu in Settings before being able to upload your photos via
> the Photos app. That being said, after I went through the trouble to do
> this
> when uploading them via Facebook became less accessible, I learned that
> with
> iOS 7, this process was very laggy, and I was never able to succeed. But
> with those beginning instructions, perhaps someone else can play around
> with
> it for a while and figure out a better solution.
>
> Where I think the selecting and sharing photos can come in handy is this.
I
> would email the photos to yourself and save them as what they are, or in
> some system that will allow you to remember which is which when you upload
> them to the Facebook Mobile website from your computer. If you email
> multiple photos at a time, I am not sure how they show up in the
> attachments, in other words, whether the photos are attached in a
> particular
> order such as most recent to least recent, or if the attachment process
has
> to do with file size or whatnot. So experimenting with that will let you
> know if as a blind person, attaching multiple photos to one email is
> doable.
> If you can do this efficiently, I have been able to send emails with 6 or
7
> photos in them. Using the Gmail app will be great for this as I am not
sure
> if you can email multiple photos from the photos app at once, something
> more
> to try. If you use the Gmail app, the interface is similar to the basic
> html
> version that you would use as a blind person with JAWS on a computer. So
> you
> can attach one photo after another.
> But again, I am not sure if these photos will show up attached in the same
> order as you attach them. Sorry, that explanation was kind of all over the
> place.
>
>
>
> I usually save photos on my computer with titles containing the picture
> caption so they are easily referenced later.
>
> If you click the photos tab on your profile on Facebook Mobile, there is
an
> "add photos" button at the bottom of the screen. There is a browse box and
> a
> caption box and then a link that will probably say "mobile uploads." You
> can
> then choose to add the photo to any existing album that you have. So one
> workaround for this would be to try to create an album on the regular
> Facebook site and then add the photos to it on the Mobile site.
>
>
>
> The Facebook Mobile help claims that you can create an album on the Mobile
> site, but I have yet to find a "create" button.
>
> I have no experience using screen magnification software. I can imagine
> that
> on the iPhone the steps are similar except that you will possibly be able
> to
> use your vision to help you find the right photos/buttons, and perhaps the
> regular Facebook website is more accessible. If so, their help topics can
> be
> found quite easily.
>
> So that is the insight I have now, kind of disappointing.
>
> Cindy
>
> On 10/13/13, Bernie &Felix <quinata3145 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>  hey Jim  ,  if you figure it  out with jaws I sure would like your
>> help using zoomtext on facebook
>>
>> Bernie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Portillo" <portillo.jim at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Anybody know about Facebook and photo albums?
>>
>>
>>> May I quote you on that as I post it? <g>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbwatlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>>> Freeman
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:45 AM
>>> To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Anybody know about Facebook and photo albums?
>>>
>>> Blindfold the Facebook viewers and then they won't care! (har)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbwatlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
>>> Portillo
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:29 AM
>>> To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [nfbwatlk] Anybody know about Facebook and photo albums?
>>>
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a question that I'm not sure has been addressed on here.  I
>>> have no idea how to do this either.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to post some photos on Facebook that are all kind of grouped
>>> together or in a sequence.  I know people create albums, but how
>>> would I do this using a computer with JAWS?
>>>
>>> If that's too complicated, then what about an IPhone?  It appears
>>> that all of the photos show up in the IOS pictures album.  Does
>>> anyone have experience creating specific photo albums, and if so,
>>> could you walk us through the process?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> --
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> Secretary: National Association of Blind Students
>
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