[nfbwatlk] Student Division

Thu Dec 4 22:07:29 UTC 2008

Hello Everyone!

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Lauren Merryfield <lauren1 at catliness.com>wrote:

> Hi,
> OOOO, I liked your cat and mouse quote!
>
> I am a student of life; does that make me eligible?
> Thanks
> Lauren
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Burrows" <
> theladykathryn4one at juno.com>
> To: "'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:07 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Student Division
>
>
>
>> Perhaps I am the only one that thought to be a member of the student
>> division one had to a student actively pursuing a degree or certificate or
>> to be considering an advanced degree or certificate.  I deemed it to be a
>> rather exclusive organization rather like some of the professional
>> divisions.  I also presumed it to be run by the members and not
>> necessarily
>> with direction and support of the affiliate.  In fact I thought that it
>> was
>> not a welcome place for "grey beards or snow tops" as most students are
>> more
>> youthful than the rest of the membership.  There for I am a little
>> confused
>> about your use of this forum.  Were your comments directed to the student
>> members only or to all affiliate members with their lack of concern for
>> the
>> student division?
>>
>> I find it hard to even conceive that any member, let alone a board member
>> is
>> not concerned with fund raising.  For many of us it is a very frightening
>> and worrisome situation.  I do not know of a single chapter that does mot
>> benefit from the affiliate's pockets.
>>
>> Many people work countless hours for the benefit of their chapter and the
>> affiliate and do not expect to have public recognition for their work.
>> They
>> do what they do quietly, efficiently, and with much anonymity just because
>> they love and care about the organization and the work that it does.  Mike
>> Freeman would not even think of telling everyone how many personal hours
>> he
>> had spent organizing the convention that you thought "could have been done
>> better"  Rather than make sure criticisms in public you might consider
>> contacting Mike off list with suggestions for improvement and volunteering
>> time to bring them to fruition.  Every mouse wanted the cat to be belled,
>> but no mouse volunteered to put the bell around his neck.
>>
>> I can not and try not to speak for others.  These are my thoughts and I
>> take
>> responsibility for them.
>>
>> Kay Burrows
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:05 PM
>> To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Student Division
>>
>> Kay:
>>
>> One does not have to be a student to be a member of NFB of Washington
>> Students. I'll have to look at the constitution for the division but I
>> believe that all officers must be students and I should think that a
>> majority of the voting membership of the division must be students also.
>> AS I say, I'll have to look back through my records to clarify this.
>>
>> Insofar as I am aware, there is no set qualification for being a
>> "student" insofar as division membership is concerned but common sense
>> ought to rule. For example, Marty was a student since she was studying
>> to become a licensed massage therapist. Likewise, anyone going to school
>> to get an academic degree or to learn a trade is a student. I'm not sure
>> someone taking, say, a night-time course to learn how to knit for the
>> heck of it would be said to be a student, at least in the spirit of the
>> group the division is meant to represent and assist though, as I said
>> above, one does not need to be a student to be a member of the division.
>>
>> At the risk of leaving someone out, at the formation of the division, I
>> believe that Lisa, Jennifer, Jacob and Marty were students and Andrea,
>> Mike Mello and, I think, Ben Prows, joined also although I'm a bit vague
>> on this last assertion except that both Andrea and Mike were "charter
>> members" and Andrea may have been a student at that time. Oh yes -- CT
>> may have joined also,
>>
>> Insofar as I am aware, Jennifer, Lisa and Jacob are the only bona fide
>> students that are left though I am quick to admit that I could be wrong
>> and could be leaving someone else out. CRS Syndrome and all that!
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Burrows" <
>> theladykathryn4one at juno.com>
>> To: "'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Student Division
>>
>>
>>
>> There are some areas of clarification that I would like to have in
>> understand the situation better.  How many students are member of the
>> affiliate?  Is the student division limited to only students?  What is
>> considered a student or what is the qualifying definition of a student?
>> Are
>> there parameters as to were and how many hours are needed to qualify?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Mackenstadt, Gary
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:11 AM
>> To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Student Division
>>
>>
>> Lisa, I am a little concerned about your message.  I agree that you have
>> worked hard.  However, none of us live in a bubble.  I share your
>> disappointment about the students" division.  I have been in the
>> federation
>> for thirty-five years, and a students' division particularly on a state
>> level has always been a struggle.
>>
>> We do not need to get in to a discussion about people';s commitment.  As
>> you
>> know, all of the work is not done on the list serve or telephone.
>> Maybe,
>> some of us do not spend enough time telling other people how much we
>> spend
>> on raising money, or organizing convention, working on legislation, or
>> doing
>> advocacy.  We are all volunteers.
>>
>> The challenge remains the building of an active and productive movement.
>> The NFBW is one of fifty-two affiliates.  We get the job done
>> collectively.
>> All of us need to generate ideas and action.  We are all volunteers.  If
>> it
>> was not for jobs, college, families and everyday living, there would be
>> a
>> lot of time.
>>
>> It is my plan to start communicating with the members of the fundraising
>> committee.  However, anyone on the committee is welcome to call me, and
>> we
>> can talk.  Since we are on the subject, we are currently filling out
>> some
>> paper work related to a bequest.  Most members of the Federation do not
>> understand how much paper work there is.  For the most part, the
>> treasurer
>> and president do the endless paper work.  Delegating the paper work is
>> not a
>> realistic option.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Nfbnorthwest at aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:39 AM
>> To: nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nfbwatlk] Student Division
>>
>> Hello:
>>
>> I am very disappointed about the lack of interest in the Student
>> Division.
>> The convention was a good experience; however it could have been done
>> better.
>>
>> I appeal to all officeers in this division  to recommit themselves to
>> this
>> division. I appeal to all students also. I think it is a disserve to our
>> membership when we don't even show up to elect officers or even to
>> commit
>> ourselves to even talking on the phone.
>>
>> Jennifer "Jedi" Moerke has worked tirelessly on all our belf. I thank
>> her
>> for her dedication. Everyone knows where respnsibility lies. I will not
>> allow this division to fold up like a house of cards. This dision as
>> well as
>> the Bellingham chapter and this affiliate are far too important.
>>
>> We in WA are as strong or as weak as we wish. Fund raising needs to be
>> taken seriously if this afiliate is to survive. No one seems to care
>> about
>> this issue either.
>>
>> Jedi is very upset and frustrated at the NFB of WA; I share her
>> frustration.
>> I share her dedication and commitment. We can't do this alone.
>>
>> I renew my commitment to this affiliate, the Student Division & the
>> CFB.
>>
>> I will do whatever it takes to keep things going.
>>
>> We need you to help.
>>
>> Lisa A. Owen
>> Treasurer Officer & Fund Raising Chair
>> The Northwest Chapter
>> Secretary Officer
>> The NFB of WA Student Division
>> Fund Raising Committee Membeer
>> Member:
>> The Canadian Federation of the Blind
>> 360-920-0405
>> _nfbnorthwest at aol.com_ (mailto:nfbnorthwest at aol.com)
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