[nfbwatlk] Student Division

Thu Dec 4 06:08:34 UTC 2008

Hi,
OOOO, I liked your cat and mouse quote!

I am a student of life; does that make me eligible?
Thanks
Lauren
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kay Burrows" <theladykathryn4one at juno.com>
To: "'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Student Division

>
> Perhaps I am the only one that thought to be a member of the student
> division one had to a student actively pursuing a degree or certificate or
> to be considering an advanced degree or certificate.  I deemed it to be a
> rather exclusive organization rather like some of the professional
> divisions.  I also presumed it to be run by the members and not 
> necessarily
> with direction and support of the affiliate.  In fact I thought that it 
> was
> not a welcome place for "grey beards or snow tops" as most students are 
> more
> youthful than the rest of the membership.  There for I am a little 
> confused
> about your use of this forum.  Were your comments directed to the student
> members only or to all affiliate members with their lack of concern for 
> the
> student division?
>
> I find it hard to even conceive that any member, let alone a board member 
> is
> not concerned with fund raising.  For many of us it is a very frightening
> and worrisome situation.  I do not know of a single chapter that does mot
> benefit from the affiliate's pockets.
>
> Many people work countless hours for the benefit of their chapter and the
> affiliate and do not expect to have public recognition for their work. 
> They
> do what they do quietly, efficiently, and with much anonymity just because
> they love and care about the organization and the work that it does.  Mike
> Freeman would not even think of telling everyone how many personal hours 
> he
> had spent organizing the convention that you thought "could have been done
> better"  Rather than make sure criticisms in public you might consider
> contacting Mike off list with suggestions for improvement and volunteering
> time to bring them to fruition.  Every mouse wanted the cat to be belled,
> but no mouse volunteered to put the bell around his neck.
>
> I can not and try not to speak for others.  These are my thoughts and I 
> take
> responsibility for them.
>
> Kay Burrows
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:05 PM
> To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Student Division
>
> Kay:
>
> One does not have to be a student to be a member of NFB of Washington
> Students. I'll have to look at the constitution for the division but I
> believe that all officers must be students and I should think that a
> majority of the voting membership of the division must be students also.
> AS I say, I'll have to look back through my records to clarify this.
>
> Insofar as I am aware, there is no set qualification for being a
> "student" insofar as division membership is concerned but common sense
> ought to rule. For example, Marty was a student since she was studying
> to become a licensed massage therapist. Likewise, anyone going to school
> to get an academic degree or to learn a trade is a student. I'm not sure
> someone taking, say, a night-time course to learn how to knit for the
> heck of it would be said to be a student, at least in the spirit of the
> group the division is meant to represent and assist though, as I said
> above, one does not need to be a student to be a member of the division.
>
> At the risk of leaving someone out, at the formation of the division, I
> believe that Lisa, Jennifer, Jacob and Marty were students and Andrea,
> Mike Mello and, I think, Ben Prows, joined also although I'm a bit vague
> on this last assertion except that both Andrea and Mike were "charter
> members" and Andrea may have been a student at that time. Oh yes -- CT
> may have joined also,
>
> Insofar as I am aware, Jennifer, Lisa and Jacob are the only bona fide
> students that are left though I am quick to admit that I could be wrong
> and could be leaving someone else out. CRS Syndrome and all that!
>
> Mike Freeman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kay Burrows" <theladykathryn4one at juno.com>
> To: "'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Student Division
>
>
>
> There are some areas of clarification that I would like to have in
> understand the situation better.  How many students are member of the
> affiliate?  Is the student division limited to only students?  What is
> considered a student or what is the qualifying definition of a student?
> Are
> there parameters as to were and how many hours are needed to qualify?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Mackenstadt, Gary
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:11 AM
> To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Student Division
>
>
> Lisa, I am a little concerned about your message.  I agree that you have
> worked hard.  However, none of us live in a bubble.  I share your
> disappointment about the students" division.  I have been in the
> federation
> for thirty-five years, and a students' division particularly on a state
> level has always been a struggle.
>
> We do not need to get in to a discussion about people';s commitment.  As
> you
> know, all of the work is not done on the list serve or telephone.
> Maybe,
> some of us do not spend enough time telling other people how much we
> spend
> on raising money, or organizing convention, working on legislation, or
> doing
> advocacy.  We are all volunteers.
>
> The challenge remains the building of an active and productive movement.
> The NFBW is one of fifty-two affiliates.  We get the job done
> collectively.
> All of us need to generate ideas and action.  We are all volunteers.  If
> it
> was not for jobs, college, families and everyday living, there would be
> a
> lot of time.
>
> It is my plan to start communicating with the members of the fundraising
> committee.  However, anyone on the committee is welcome to call me, and
> we
> can talk.  Since we are on the subject, we are currently filling out
> some
> paper work related to a bequest.  Most members of the Federation do not
> understand how much paper work there is.  For the most part, the
> treasurer
> and president do the endless paper work.  Delegating the paper work is
> not a
> realistic option.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Nfbnorthwest at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:39 AM
> To: nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nfbwatlk] Student Division
>
> Hello:
>
> I am very disappointed about the lack of interest in the Student
> Division.
> The convention was a good experience; however it could have been done
> better.
>
> I appeal to all officeers in this division  to recommit themselves to
> this
> division. I appeal to all students also. I think it is a disserve to our
> membership when we don't even show up to elect officers or even to
> commit
> ourselves to even talking on the phone.
>
> Jennifer "Jedi" Moerke has worked tirelessly on all our belf. I thank
> her
> for her dedication. Everyone knows where respnsibility lies. I will not
> allow this division to fold up like a house of cards. This dision as
> well as
> the Bellingham chapter and this affiliate are far too important.
>
> We in WA are as strong or as weak as we wish. Fund raising needs to be
> taken seriously if this afiliate is to survive. No one seems to care
> about
> this issue either.
>
> Jedi is very upset and frustrated at the NFB of WA; I share her
> frustration.
> I share her dedication and commitment. We can't do this alone.
>
> I renew my commitment to this affiliate, the Student Division & the
> CFB.
>
> I will do whatever it takes to keep things going.
>
> We need you to help.
>
> Lisa A. Owen
> Treasurer Officer & Fund Raising Chair
> The Northwest Chapter
> Secretary Officer
> The NFB of WA Student Division
> Fund Raising Committee Membeer
> Member:
> The Canadian Federation of the Blind
> 360-920-0405
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