[gui-talk] JAWS sluggish startup

Wed Jan 11 19:19:09 UTC 2017

Jonathan,

Thanks for the suggestion about NVDA.  I will try that.  As for update 
on this issue, I installed the latest JAWS 18 and the problem persists.  
However, I see that it doesn't always happen. Several times I logged out 
of one user account and logged into another without any delay in JAWS 
starting after successfuly logging in.  One situation which does seem to 
cause sluggish start of JAWS is if the computer goes into hybernation.  
The system is currently set up to go into hybernation after a certain 
period of inactivity.  If a user is logged in it is then necessary to 
re-enter the password, or if the user has logged out and there is 
inactivity then hybernation mode begins.  Once the system is woke up the 
main log in screen appears and I have to choose the user name I want to 
log in and then the password.  So one way to resolve the issue would be 
to turn off the hybernation mode or any screen saver that requires 
re-entry of password.  But I think I'll try the NVDA option first.

Brian

On 1/10/2017 7:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn via gui-talk wrote:
> Brian,
>
> This was what I was suggesting NVDA do for you. If you login as your Admin,
> and install NVDA there is an option to have the current configuration used
> for login and security panes. If you check this, and then disable NVDA from
> starting after login, you should be in pretty good shape.
>
> There is the possibility that UAC and other secure panels will double
> speak, but I don't thin that will be the case.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:53 PM Brian Blair via gui-talk <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Jen,
>>
>>
>> I have unchecked the first option in the Start Jaws Options dialog which
>> is Start JAWS at the log on screen.  Will see if this helps the issue of
>> getting JAWS to start up immediately after logging on to a given user
>> account on which the combo box was set to Always for Start JAWS after
>> logon for this user .
>>
>>
>> It's unfortunate if this is what must be done to avoid the sluggish
>> startup for JAWS once the log in is accomplished.  The purpose of the
>> first option in the Start Jaws Options entitled Start JAWS at the log on
>> screen should ensure that speech is available at the log on screen.  My
>> particular log on screen has six users.  Windows doesn't allow for first
>> letter navigation of this screen.  Therefore without speech you have to
>> first of all assume the log on screen has actually come up, then know
>> how many times to press right arrow and down arrow to get to the proper
>> user, hit space bar, and then type the password. There will be no way to
>> know if I've selected the wrong user or perhaps I had the correct user
>> but had caps lock on when typing the password?
>>
>>
>> Will be doing some further checking into why this isn't working as it
>> should.
>>
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/9/2017 1:06 PM, Jen via gui-talk wrote:
>>> Hi Brian,
>>>
>>> I respectfully disagree with John. I think you have a problem with your
>> JAWS
>>> settings.
>>>
>>> Try this.
>>>
>>> 1. Press Alt, O to go to the "Options" menu.
>>> 2. Press B for "Basics..."
>>> 3. Press CTRL, J to press the "Automatically Start JAWS..." button.
>>> 4. Press Alt, A to uncheck the "Start JAWS at the logon screen for all
>>> users" checkbox. This way, JAWS won't start when everyone in your family
>>> logs on to that computer.
>>> 5. Make sure "Always" is selected at the "Start JAWS at the logon screen
>> for
>>> this user" combo box.
>>> 6. Press the "Okay" button.
>>>
>>> Now, JAWS will only start on the logon screen for you.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Jen
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brian
>> Blair
>>> via gui-talk
>>> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 4:06 PM
>>> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List
>>> <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Brian Blair <brianblair at polarblairs.org>
>>> Subject: [gui-talk] JAWS sluggish startup
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've experienced an annoying issue over several years and am wondering
>>> if there is a solution.
>>>
>>> I  have an Acer Veriton  Desktop running Windows 7 Professional 64 bit.
>>> The computer has five user accounts for members of my family plus the
>>> administrative account.
>>>
>>> I currently have JAWS 17 installed and have it set to speak at the
>>> log-on screen and also automatically start for my administrator account
>>> and my personal account.   .
>>>
>>> Here's the problem.  When another user has logged out of the computer
>>> without re-starting it, if I attempt to log into the administrator
>>> account or my personal account, JAWS may take up to 10 minutes before it
>>> starts speaking.  JAWS will speak the log in prompt. Once I put in the
>>> username and password JAWS can take up to 10 minutes before it runs. If
>>> I try to run JAWS manually after my log in I will eventually end up with
>>> several instances of JAWS speaking at the same time and eventually have
>>> some kind of JAWS crash.
>>>
>>> I have also seen instances when JAWS fails to speak at the log-in
>>> screen.  I wonder if this may happen because I have observed my family
>>> logging into their accounts before JAWS has loaded and spoken the log in
>>> prompt.
>>>
>>> I first noticed this issue with JAWS 16 so I uninstalled and
>>> re-installed JAWS 17 but this did not solve this problem.
>>>
>>> I'm planning to install JAWS 18 soon but am  not optomistic this will
>>> help the situation.  The only solution I've found thus far is that if
>>> the computer is already running I go directly from the log in screen to
>>> Shutdown options and then hit restart.  Then I can log into either my
>>> personal or administrative account and JAWS will start up promptly after
>>> log in.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if this is an unusual occurrance.  It seems I should be
>>> able to log in and log out of whatever account I choose and JAWS should
>>> not delay starting up once the log in is accomplished.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
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