[gui-talk] Speaking of NVDA

Curtis Delzer curtis at calweb.com
Fri Jun 17 15:26:55 UTC 2016


you can use any of the sapi4 or sapi 5 voices on your system with NVDA.
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Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 03:27:49 -0700
Hawkeye via gui-talk <gui-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Is there a way to get better voices rather than the chipmunk ones offered by the program?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via gui-talk
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:23 PM
> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List
> Cc: David Andrews
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] JAWS and Window Eyes Now Owned By the Same Company
> 
> While I agree with both of you, Gerald and Ray, 
> for the most part, I also think that, in the long 
> run, it won't make much of a difference.
> 
> This is because the things that allowed a screen 
> reader to differentiate itself from its 
> competition are fast going away.  In the 
> beginning, screen readers had to insert 
> themselves into the video chain of your computer, 
> create an off-screen model, and play other tricks.
> 
> These methods have mostly been blocked by 
> Microsoft, so screen readers are having to rely 
> on accessibility API's like MSAA and UI 
> Automation for their information.  NVDA totally 
> uses API's, and not other methods.
> 
> Eventually non-API access will be completely 
> blocked. Microsoft is also improving Narrator, 
> and it is my prediction that at some point, we 
> will use either VoiceOver or Narrator for access, 
> and third party applications will mostly go away.
> 
> This is why I say I don't think it matters much in the long run.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:48 AM 6/15/2016, you wrote:
> >I am afraid I agree with your speculation about 
> >Window-eyes being fazed out in consequence of 
> >this acquisition.  Even though I was a JAWS user 
> >back in my windows days, I’d hate to see 
> >window-eyes go away like it looks like it might 
> >now.  If this benefits anybody, I suspect we can 
> >predict that the folks over at NVDA will soon be 
> >quite happy as they will gain quite a few 
> >thousand users now. Sent from my Mac, The only 
> >computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> >built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted 
> >Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> >iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!! > On Jun 15, 
> >2016, at 11:12 AM, Gerald Levy via gui-talk 
> ><gui-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > For those of 
> >you who may have missed this bombshell, VFO, the 
> >parent company of Freedom Scientific, which 
> >markets JAWS, has acquired AI Squared, which 
> >markets the rival screen reader, Window 
> >Eyes.  This development does not bode well for 
> >Window Eyes users, because such mergers 
> >invaribly lead to consolidation of products and 
> >services to reduce costs and eliminate 
> >competition, and Window Eyes, having the smaller 
> >market share than JAWS is likely to be phased 
> >out and its users transitioned to JAWS, although 
> >this is just speculation on my part.  But it 
> >would make no economic sense for VFO to continue 
> >marketing and supporting two essentially similar 
> >screen readers.  .  And with System Access 
> >already on life support and its future 
> >uncertain, the demise of Window Eyes would leave 
> >JAWS with a virtual monopoly in the commercial 
> >screen reader market,  which could lead to even 
> >higher prices.  On the other hand, JAWS might 
> >eventually incorporate features from Window Eyes 
> >that it does not already offer, making it more 
> >attractive.  For more details: > > 
> >http://www.blindbargains.com/rss/latest.xml > > Gerald > >
> 
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