[gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player

[Sandra Spencer]

Hi Dave,
Is it very easy to use? I'm just asking because I'm totally blind and I 
don't know how to do a lot on the computer, when it comes to updating 
things.
thank you.
Sandra

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get that for me?"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List" 
<gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player


>I bought the ninite updater client for my computer.  It runs at startup and 
>allows you to update things.  I believe it was  $9.95 and is great.  Flash 
>is still in it, and updates.
>
> Dave
>
> At 05:46 AM 12/9/2013, you wrote:
>
>>For your information, Adobe Flash Player has not been available for 
>>download on the Ninite site for a few months, so the only option is to 
>>download it from the Adobe site.
>>
>>Gerald
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" 
>><jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>>To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List" 
>><gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 7:00 PM
>>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player
>>
>>
>>>It's never a good idea to use the adobe website to update software.
>>>Your better option is to use http://www.ninite.com/ and that will
>>>download an appropriate installer for your hardware and software.  You
>>>run the installer and ninite.com installs the adobe products for you
>>>without all that extra garbage.  That's how ninite.com installs
>>>everything that's available on ninite.com and if you buy the pro
>>>version, ninite.com will check the manufacturer's sites for you and let
>>>you know when it's time to install the next updates.  I'm surprised
>>>ninite.com isn't known about and used more widely on those other blind
>>>tech lists.  I don't even want to write about adobe reader with jaws 10,
>>>but that ninite.com site is well worth a visit.
>>>
>>>On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, David Andrews wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have forwarded your message to several influencial people within the 
>>>>NFB.
>>>>Adobe, in my opinion is one of the worst main-line companies out there, 
>>>>in my
>>>>opinion.  In addition to the kinds of things you mention below, many of 
>>>>their
>>>>tools for producing PDF's do a terrible job at producing accessible 
>>>>documents.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>At 04:59 PM 12/5/2013, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >There has been a lot of discussion over the past few days on a few 
>>>> >blind
>>>> >tech-related mailing lists about the difficulty of updating Adobe 
>>>> >Flash
>>>> >Player without also installing unwanted software such as Google
>>>> Chrome >and
>>>> >Tool Bar as well as McAfee Security Scan Plus.  A lot of people have 
>>>> > >been
>>>> >complaining that the check boxes on the Flash Player download page to
>>>> >unselect the installation of Google Chrome or McAfee Security Scan 
>>>> >Plus,
>>>> >which are checked by default are either totally
>>>> inaccessible  or >uncheckable
>>>> >, regardless of which screen reader is used.  Other people have
>>>> reported >that
>>>> >the Adobe web site is so inaccessible, that they can't install
>>>> Flash >Player
>>>> >at all without sighted help.  This is not an insignificant
>>>> problem, in >view
>>>> >of the fact that updates to Flash Player are released pretty
>>>> frequently >and
>>>> >need to be installed to patch security flaws in this highly-vulnerable
>>>> >program, which is used by many web sites, including the
>>>> popular >Youtube.com.
>>>> >Can anything be done to force Adobe to make the download page for 
>>>> >Flash
>>>> >Player more accessible for us blind computer users.  Must we be forced 
>>>> > >to
>>>> >install unwanted software because there is no accessible means
>>>> of >unselecting
>>>> >it?  Is there anything the NFB can do , such as taking legal
>>>> action >against
>>>> >Adobe to force it to make its Flash Player web site more blind 
>>>> >friendly?
>>>> >Thanks for any feedback.
>>>> >
>>>> >Gerald
>
>
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