[gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player

[Pamela Dominguez]

I didn't know there was a pay one.  I guess that's why you still have flash, 
because they didn't want to give it away for free.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: David Andrews
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:29 PM
To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player

I bought the ninite updater client for my computer.  It runs at
startup and allows you to update things.  I believe it was  $9.95 and
is great.  Flash is still in it, and updates.

Dave

At 05:46 AM 12/9/2013, you wrote:

>For your information, Adobe Flash Player has not been available for 
>download on the Ninite site for a few months, so the only option is to 
>download it from the Adobe site.
>
>Gerald
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" 
><jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List" 
><gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 7:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player
>
>
>>It's never a good idea to use the adobe website to update software.
>>Your better option is to use http://www.ninite.com/ and that will
>>download an appropriate installer for your hardware and software.  You
>>run the installer and ninite.com installs the adobe products for you
>>without all that extra garbage.  That's how ninite.com installs
>>everything that's available on ninite.com and if you buy the pro
>>version, ninite.com will check the manufacturer's sites for you and let
>>you know when it's time to install the next updates.  I'm surprised
>>ninite.com isn't known about and used more widely on those other blind
>>tech lists.  I don't even want to write about adobe reader with jaws 10,
>>but that ninite.com site is well worth a visit.
>>
>>On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, David Andrews wrote:
>>
>>>I have forwarded your message to several influencial people within the 
>>>NFB.
>>>Adobe, in my opinion is one of the worst main-line companies out there, 
>>>in my
>>>opinion.  In addition to the kinds of things you mention below, many of 
>>>their
>>>tools for producing PDF's do a terrible job at producing accessible 
>>>documents.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>At 04:59 PM 12/5/2013, you wrote:
>>>
>>> >There has been a lot of discussion over the past few days on a few 
>>> >blind
>>> >tech-related mailing lists about the difficulty of updating Adobe Flash
>>> >Player without also installing unwanted software such as Google
>>> Chrome >and
>>> >Tool Bar as well as McAfee Security Scan Plus.  A lot of people have 
>>> > >been
>>> >complaining that the check boxes on the Flash Player download page to
>>> >unselect the installation of Google Chrome or McAfee Security Scan 
>>> >Plus,
>>> >which are checked by default are either totally
>>> inaccessible  or >uncheckable
>>> >, regardless of which screen reader is used.  Other people have
>>> reported >that
>>> >the Adobe web site is so inaccessible, that they can't install
>>> Flash >Player
>>> >at all without sighted help.  This is not an insignificant
>>> problem, in >view
>>> >of the fact that updates to Flash Player are released pretty
>>> frequently >and
>>> >need to be installed to patch security flaws in this highly-vulnerable
>>> >program, which is used by many web sites, including the
>>> popular >Youtube.com.
>>> >Can anything be done to force Adobe to make the download page for Flash
>>> >Player more accessible for us blind computer users.  Must we be forced 
>>> > >to
>>> >install unwanted software because there is no accessible means
>>> of >unselecting
>>> >it?  Is there anything the NFB can do , such as taking legal
>>> action >against
>>> >Adobe to force it to make its Flash Player web site more blind 
>>> >friendly?
>>> >Thanks for any feedback.
>>> >
>>> >Gerald


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