[gui-talk] Adobe Flash

[Mike Freeman]

Steve:

I agree with you completely. My post was in the nature of an interim report,
not a sigh of relief. (grin)

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:48 AM
To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Adobe Flash

Mike,

I think that Adobe has been changing there update procedures some over time
which is why it is hard to know what to expect.  There were a couple of
updates where I was directed to their download website and that was where I
got Google Chrome and also the Google Tool Bar, and realized after the fact
I needed to uncheck certain boxes to avoid that.  However, the latest
updates didn't seem to require that for me, either.  

Having said that, though, I do share the frustrations that many feel
regarding adobe.  They seem to be tinkering with their update delivery
system regularly, sometimes including other software and sometimes not.  I
do not consider FLASH or Adobe Acrobat Reader to be free software in the
usual sense because they have to get these applications distributed widely
in order that they can sell to developers.  Much of the reason for their
updates is to fix bugs and plug security holes that they left in these
products.  This is a problem not unique to adobe, but my point is that
installation of updates should be as painless as possible.  If they are
finally getting the idea, great, but it shouldn't take until version 11 or
12 to figure that out, so I am not convinced that things won't again change
for the wors with the next update.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:38:46 -0800, Mike Freeman wrote:

>I was notified this morning that an update to Adobe Flash was 
>available. I checked using both JAWS 15 and the latest NVDA release 
>and, other than a button to indicate that I had read and agreed to the 
>software licensing agreement, I could find no checkboxes or other 
>controls indicating that special software was being installed. With
trepidation, I hit the "Install"
>button and the software installed without incident. I then used both 
>JAWS and NVDA to check for weird or special icons and could find none. 
>I then went to "Add or Remove Programs" and could find no unwanted 
>toolbars or browsers such as Google Chrome installed.

> 

>So unless some untoward behavior shows up during the next few days, it 
>seems to me that Adobe must have heard from a plethora of computer 
>users that said users had had enough and that they wanted a complete, 
>clean Flash update/installation.

> 

>I'm using Windows 7 Home Premium.

> 

>Mike

> 

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