[gui-talk] new windows mobile phones

Tue May 8 05:06:45 UTC 2012

Dear Dean,

Actually, not everybody can afford a Smartphone. My family comes from a
fixed and low income and have no ways of dealing with carrier data plans.
Yes, there are many cool things the iPhone is capable of doing. In fact,
this incredible phone can do just about everything except cook dinner or
walk! (smile!) in fact there are about half a million applications built
specifically for the iPhone itself, or so I was told via a TV commercial
from Sprint. Heck you can even put out your own DJ with an iPhone, just use
an app like Hulu, or Pandora, and a sound system that supports standard
audio output plugs, and you'll be good to go! 

However, I just don't use a Smartphone, and don't need to, because, A, I
simply can not afford it, and B, why ever use s Smartphone because not
everybody uses a Smartphone in the sighted community? 
There better be better laws, in this nation, that tell manufacturers of
electronic devices and the FCC, that they must make their devices accessible
to all people as part of their manufacturing. Anyone in here want to be the
president of the US? I certainly would change these things from what they
are now if I was, LOL. 

Cheers,
Humberto

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 9:37 PM
To: 'Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] new windows mobile phones

Well, thanks to apple and the people who have put effort into making android
accessible, we have options, so the relentless advance of touch-screen
technology is not the danger to us it would otherwise be.  I suggest that
people who could, but choose not to, learn to use a smart phone will
increasingly be left behind in the developed world.  So it really depends on
what you want to do  in life.  

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Humberto Avila
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:02 PM
To: 'Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] new windows mobile phones

Hello, but what about for those of us who have no interest in learning the
touchscreen interface? Are we simply forced to  actually learn to tap,
flick, slide, slap, or whatever other fancy gesture we can do to navigate
and use the iPhone successfully? Are the phones such as the HTZ Ozone from
Verizon, the Nokia phones for AT&T and T-mobile are going out? What about
people who have no desire to use a Smartphone? 

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:46 PM
To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] new windows mobile phones

Apple along with the app writers have simply set the bar too high for 
Microsoft to even have a hope of touching it for any windows phone for 
the foreseeable future.  Now to even be competitive with Apple, a store 
well loaded with accessible apps has to be available for purchase in 
addition to an accessible phone.  But then again, Apple was eating 
Microsoft's lunch as far back as 2006 with the Tiger version of their 
operating system and simply continued their success with the IPhone 3GS 
when that went on the market.  I have been totally blind from birth.  
When I got my Mac Mini in 2008, it had no operating system on it at all. 
 I hooked it up by myself with no sighted assistance and managed to put 
the right disk in the drive on the second try and waited.  A few seconds 
later as the operating system loaded up, Tiger started asking me 
questions with its sound card and the speakers I had attached.  If I 
hadn't attached speakers, I'd still have heard the questions all be it 
on smaller speakers.  I managed to get that operating system installed 
and used that computer for four years until it died.  To the best of my 
knowledge, Microsoft hasn't written any version of windows I can do that 
with and Windows 8 will not have any such capabilities either.  If 
malware had ever attacked my Mac, I'd be able to do the clean up and 
reinstall myself but not with Windows.  Finally, my family is several 
hundred miles away from where I live.  It is true I do have one computer 
solely dedicated to windows 7 in my apartment but the only reason that 
happened was due to major pressure from sighted colleagues.  I think if 
I ever buy another disabled version of windows and it goes feet up on 
me, I'll first pay to have it fixed then put a letter together for the 
media outlets and Microsoft and a few people in Congress and send a copy 
of the bill along with that letter to all of them with documentation of 
my disability and an explanation in that letter as to why Microsoft got 
sent the bill.  I am certain nothing will happen as a result, and that 
in and of itself will be a worthwhile update for any interested parties.

On Mon, 7 May 2012, Dean Martineau wrote:

> It is clear from Microsoft's actions in this area, that they have no
interest whatsoever in making Windows phones accessible to theblind. They
simply are not putting any resources in that direction. The only smart
phones a  blind person can use our the iPhone and, to some extent, android
phones.
> 
> On May 7, 2012, at 12:31, "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
wrote:
> 
> > Nothing right now.
> > Andy
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Hoffman, Allen
> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 8:05 AM
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> > 
> > what's the word on Windows mobile latest phones and accessibility?
> > 
> > 
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