[gui-talk] Could Webvisum Finally Be Gone for Good?

Thu Jun 21 21:33:44 UTC 2012

In all of the time audio captchas have been available I haven't been 
able to solve any of them with normal hearing either.  However, from 
another list I got http://www.deathbycaptcha.com/ maybe that will be of 
some help.

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Gerald Levy wrote:

> 
> You claim that audio captchas are not too bad.  Well, even with my $5000
> hearing aids I find most of them incomprehensible.  And I have even
> encountered government web sites that have only an image captcha with no
> alternative working audio captcha that have the chutzpah to claim that their
> sites meet accessibility standards.
> 
> Gerald
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul at asmodean.net>
> To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List"
> <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Could Webvisum Finally Be Gone for Good?
> 
> 
> > Hi, fwiw, Firefox is good to use regardless of webvisum. It runs much better
> > than Internet Explorer, crashes less, and doesn't take up as many resources.
> > All that being said, the topic is about Webvisum, which some didn't use all
> > the time. Audio captchas, if available are not too bad, and if all else
> > fails. Get sighted help. I know you have already stated your views on that,
> > but unfortunately it's reality;. If you want to not use a person to help you
> > read captchas or you don't have available an audio alternative, then write
> > the web sites who present these inaccessible captchas and try to get them to
> > understand than an accessible form of verification is needed. For example, a
> > random question like the sum of 5 and 3, which changes every time, might
> > work. Or, what color is the red apple? These have been known to work as
> > well.
> >
> > Good luck in your efforts.
> >
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> >
> > On 6/20/2012 4:17 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, if it weren't for Webvisum, I wouldn't have wasted my time with
> > > Firefox.  I was getting pretty sick and tired of trying to keep up with
> > > each new release.  So now what?  Anybody have any good ideas about how
> > > to solve image captchas without sighted help?  Please don't tell me to
> > > try the audio captcha alternative, because most of the time it either
> > > doesn't work or it is impossible to understand.
> > >
> > > Gerald
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Moore" <don.moore48 at comcast.net>
> > > To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List"
> > > <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:32 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Could Webvisum Finally Be Gone for Good?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Actually the web page is gone effective today too.  Sorry about the
> > > > earlier
> > > > post.  Too bad.  It's the only reason I have Firefox on my computer
> > > > along
> > > > with IE.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Humberto Avila"
> > > > <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
> > > > To: "'Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List'"
> > > > <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:30 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Could Webvisum Finally Be Gone for Good?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm not happy with what has been said here. If the Webvisum developers
> > > > are
> > > > tired of seeing new releases for firefox browser and trying to keep up
> > > > with
> > > > those new releases, then they were tired and they did not want to
> > > > support
> > > > Webvisum anymore. If this is the case, then I am assuming some bad and
> > > > nonsense pattern I'm seeing with blindness web developers. Look, what
> > > > happened to quitter, the quitters that developed quitter finally quit
> > > > because they decided that they couldn't keep up with demands and
> > > > questions
> > > > criticizing them. The developers at www.solona.net also gave up their
> > > > site
> > > > because well, I'm not sure this is approved, but the site
> > > > administrator that
> > > > did the page was ill and couldn't keep up anymore. Now Webvisum is
> > > > next in
> > > > line? Is it their turn to quit? Wow! And the bad thing about this is
> > > > that
> > > > they don't even have a notification system and produce a notice! If
> > > > this is
> > > > to happen really, they should've posted some sort of notice under
> > > > their news
> > > > section or events section, whatever that is, on their web site. Again, I
> > > > really really really hope this doesn't happen!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:09 PM
> > > > To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Could Webvisum Finally Be Gone for Good?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you just try it?  I don't understand how it could work for you if
> > > > it no
> > > > longer exists. There is absolutely nothing related toWebvisum anymore
> > > > on its
> > > >
> > > > home page.
> > > >
> > > > Gerald
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Moore" <don.moore48 at comcast.net>
> > > > To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List"
> > > > <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:46 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Could Webvisum Finally Be Gone for Good?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Does it support those old versions of Firefox?  Using the more current
> > > > > version it seems to work fine.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy"
> > > > > <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
> > > > > To: <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:39 PM
> > > > > Subject: [gui-talk] Could Webvisum Finally Be Gone for Good?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This morning, when I launched Firefox 3.6, instead of the familiar
> > > > > "Alert,
> > > > > you are logged on to Webvisum" welcome message, I got a server
> > > > > connection
> > > > > error. So I visited a web page that contains an image captcha, but
> > > > > when I
> > > > > attempted to submit it to Webvisum for decoding by pressing
> > > > > Alt-Control-numrow 6, nothing happened. And the solve captcha option
> > > > > was
> > > > > not
> > > > > available on the context menu either. I visited www.webvisum.com, and
> > > > > was
> > > > > dismayed by the following message:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > NOTICE: This domain name expired on 06/19/2012 and is pending renewal
> > > > > or
> > > > > deletion.
> > > > >
> > > > > This web page is parked FREE, courtesy of GoDaddy.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know much about Go Daddy, but I think it is a web hosting
> > > > > service.
> > > > > From the message, it sounds like Webvisum's domain name expired
> > > > > yesterday,
> > > > > and the Webvisum site is apparently gone. I certainly hope that this
> > > > > isn't
> > > > > the case, and that this is just a temporary glitch.  But Blind Cool
> > > > > Tech
> > > > > guru Rick Harmon, who is much more knowledgable about these things
> > > > > than
> > > > > me,
> > > > > believes that it may finally be gone for good.   If this is indeed the
> > > > > case,
> > > > > are we going to be forced to rely on sighted help from now on to solve
> > > > > image
> > > > > captchas?  Is there anything the blind advocacy groups can do?  Can
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > shed some light on what's up with Webvisum? Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >    Gerald
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