[gui-talk] is Webvisum no more?

[Mike Freeman]

Yes there are -- two reasons: (1) we figured we could win with Target since it is a place of public accommodation under Title III of ADA and (2) there is no generally-accepted solution to the problem.

Mike Freeman
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On Jun 21, 2012, at 4:54, "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:

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> Excuse me, but the NFB didn't hesitate to sue Target over the inaccessiblility of its web site, which has absolutely nothing to do with jobs.  To me, suing Target is low on the totem pole because there are plenty of shopping alternatives to Target.  Yet, the NFB chose to fight this battle, anyway. So there is no reason that it should not consider taking up the fight over image captchas.
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> Gerald
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] is Webvisum no more?
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>> Unless it directly affects jobs, it's going to be rather low on the totem pole.
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>> Mike
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Humberto Avila
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:04 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] is Webvisum no more?
>> 
>> I'm not sure about you guys. But I think this could be some work that the NFB should put effort into. Yes, I believe in independence, and that every individual has a different concept of it. For me independence is being able to access every bit and byte of information that is available to me without placing a burden on someone else. This also goes for computer related and online information. And no, I'm not someone who just doesn't want to accept any kind of help from anyone nor am I am antisocial. I know that even sighted people among themselves ask for help that it is a human thing to do. But I think solving captchas on the web is something that can do independently as well as reconciling a bank statement, reading hardcopy mail, ETC. and I believe this issue about web application developers letting their tools for accessibility go is  to be brought to the NFB and so they can do something about it. I don't know about you but I'd contact the access technology department team at the Braille and technology center as well as the national leaders about this problem that we're having and the patterns that we're noticing.
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>> Cheers,
>> Humberto
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>> -----Original Messa