[gui-talk] JAWS: Job Access with speech

Sun May 8 00:40:54 UTC 2011

Nadia,

Some of your arguments are very good but there are some that are not clear.  I fear that there is more here than we 
can sort out here.  System Access can do quite a bit, but some of the determining factor is what software other 
students are using to write papers and such.  If you need some help, you need to get in contact with someone in your 
area who understands the whole situation.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 7 May 2011 16:49:48 -0400, Nadia Cioffi wrote:

>Steve- I understand I brought this up before at my IEP the MCB conser said
>you should have jaws. After this summer when I was there. Also, I've got
>more then one issues. My parpro is always called to the mating because they
>know that she will say yes to anything they do. Reasons:
>1. More relabel / No anti vireos issues for two years in a row
>2. They have a lot of open source products that other screen readers can't
>read.
>3. Better for doing research papers
>4. Provence doesn't freeze or slow down the compute by a lest 3 min
>5.It was my recommendation though the taring center
>6. I need like 8 open source programs to do like half of what I need to.
>7. You can only run one speech program
>8. Makes me more productive
>9. My soon to be readied TCVI got me  SA (system access) when I had a lot
>more sight and was not ligely blind.
>10. I use technology 100% times more then braille
>11. We have VI (Visually impaired) and blind people moving up to high
>school.
>12. My read compaction is above a college Laval and my reading is at (3red
>grade along with spelling) BUT Hearing it changes my spelling a lot

>__________________________________________________________
>Schools side of the fight
>1. I cost to much
>Counter argument- It can be used for other students when I leave the
>disconnect.
>You can install it on as many computers as they AS LONG AS only of ONE them
>is being used.
>Sam doesn't cost you a thing it's free
> The upgrading is most of the time free though updates
>2. Why Can't you just use free stuff-
>The free stuff is great,
>Counter Argument,
>The free stuff is great , but YOU can only run ONE thing at a time.
>This just means you have to make more firewall expiation's = more issues if
>running more than 1

>Why have you not bought this up before this summer-
>1. I know about the software but didn't know if it would benefit me. I would
>like to try it before I have you spend money.
>2. I didn't know what I was missing before in terms of Additive Technology
>3. This "We don't teach SAM because there are some many system conflicts
>running on computers without admin rights to make the changes and not many
>people like it." Said Ennen (computer teacher At MCBTC
>"what program are you using?" (on first computer teacher said)
>"I'm using SAM" said Nadia  (sorry this came before his huge ""
>4. on the last day "I see a huge defence in your abitly to work with
>computer with this software" Said the computer teacher.
>5. "would you recommend this software for me?" Nadia
>6. "yes" said computer teacher
>7. Conloer said IN IEP you should have that software.

>Do you think the is a good argement?
>Also, Can I have your email?
>Thanks again,
>Nadia

>On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>wrote:

>> Nadia,
>>
>> If you need a screen reader and if you want to get help with paying for it,
>> you need to come up with a plan.  First, you
>> have to think about why you need one.  Don't get angry at me, I'm not
>> saying you don't need one, but you have to
>> explain why to the people who matter.  If you have some vision and can see
>> the screen, for example, you have to
>> figure out when that doesn't work for you.  Most of us here understand that
>> low vision doesn't always work, but many
>> people, including those in Special Education, don't understand about the
>> limitations of low vision.
>>
>> If you are getting special education services, you should be having
>> meetings where it is discussed what kinds of
>> services you need.  This is probably the place where you need to deal with
>> this.  Of course, your school district will
>> wonder why this has not been brought up before this.  If you don't have an
>> Individualized Education Plan meeting until
>> next year and you can show that something has changed, you might be able to
>> talk to your special education teacher
>> about amending your plan.  If you are not receiving any of these services,
>> we would need to understand your
>> background better to help.  The point is that you have to think this
>> through and figure out what you need and why,
>> and then have a plan as to how to approach this.  If you can't use a
>> computer becausze of your vision, I would think
>> that you would have gotten something before this, so I'm concerned that we
>> don't know all of the facts.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> On Sat, 7 May 2011 11:21:41 -0400, Nadia Cioffi wrote:
>>
>> >Steve- I have until June 4 this year and then next year. I'm finishing up
>> my
>> >joiner year. Also, I might stay another year to work program. My credits
>> are
>> >on track. I don't want to this if they are not going do anything this. I'm
>> >sick of Enterprise US (money is all they care about sometimes) Could I ask
>> >my MCB concealer if there are serten cessations? Regarding being able get
>> >things before a graduate?
>> >Nadia
>> >PS. Stave thanks for your help and intertrust in my issus (smile)
>>
>> >On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >> Nadia,
>> >>
>> >> How much school do you have left?  I had thought you were graduating
>> soon.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Steve Jacobson
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 6 May 2011 21:25:25 -0400, Nadia Cioffi wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >how do I do that?
>> >>
>> >> >On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Jorge Paez
>> >> ><computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> No,
>> >> >> unfortunately.
>> >> >> But you can try and ask the board of education,
>> >> >> they got me a copy of JFW 12 not long ago.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jorge
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On May 5, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Nadia Cioffi wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Jorge Paez:
>> >> >> > Does the MCB pay for it if your not in college and you are still in
>> >> high
>> >> >> > school?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Jorge Paez
>> >> >> > <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> HI Nadia:
>> >> >> >> You can apply for the NFB technology lone with about 5 to 10%
>> >> interest.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Also the Commission for the blind/state services may be willing to
>> >> pay
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> My suggestion is pay for standard unless you're going to use
>> Windows
>> >> >> >> pro/business/ultimate.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On May 5, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Nadia Cioffi wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> Topic 1: JAWS (Job Access with speech)
>> >> >> >>> Topic 2: Screen reader vs. a text readers
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Q. Those who use JAWS, do you think it would be benefit for me to
>> >> get
>> >> >> it?
>> >> >> >>> What are it's capability in teams of reliability with (windows XP
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> up)?
>> >> >> >>> Q. What version should I look into pro or standard?
>> >> >> >>> Q. Know of any place that would give me a grant or perches the
>> >> >> software,
>> >> >> >> if
>> >> >> >>> I applied? (I would like own a copy of this program?
>> >> >> >>> Q. If so, what are the places and repayments for applying?
>> >> >> >>> Q. Pros and Cons with programs with any product you use?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Q. What is the defends between a "Text reader" and "screen
>> reader"
>> >> or
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> >>> they the same thing with diffident names?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Please give me as much detail as you can, that would be great.
>> >> >> >>> Thanks Bookshare team and GUI-talk members,
>> >> >> >>> Nadia
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