[gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?

[Wayne Merritt]

The most innovative CAPTCHA solution I ever used was from the US
Postal Service several years ago when I changed my mailing address. I
don't remember if there was an audio CAPTCHA. However, when I clicked
the link for the alternative, I was asked to fill in my email address.
Then, on the next page there was an edit box for me to paste in the
code that was emailed to me. Once I pasted in the code and hit submit,
the completed form went through. There are probably ways around even
this, but it would be hard to do since you'd need to have someone's
email address and password to retrieve the code to be put into the
edit box. That method gets my vote for an accessible design and fairly
secure and reliable CAPTCHA alternative.

And if I could ensure that someone would be on the other side of the
VizWiz IOS app by paying money, I just might do that. I don't know if
I'd pay $85 per year, but if you presented a good app like VizWiz that
was accessible and easy to use, and priced it reasonably, then I'd be
interested and maybe even bite. However, the point that any system
with human interaction/solving is not a good system and not full proof
is pretty much spot on. still, better than having to call an 800
number during the day and waiting for someone to call you back to
complete a form, :)

Wayne

On 6/27/11, Nadia Cioffi <blindhelpfultech at gmail.com> wrote:
> So there are staff doing the camtas 24/7? I missed like half of this chat
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>
>> Realistically, I think it would take at least five employees so the cost
>> would be more like $85 a year for each subscriber. While this isn't
>> exorbitant, people are more likely to pay for several steak dinners or
>> many
>> beers than they are to pay for such subscription costs; at least it often
>> seems like it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 13:35, Nadia Cioffi <blindhelpfultech at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > It better not be redemed usless It's the only way I can "read"
>> CAPTIONAWS"
>> > there are vice things. but they make it almust inposable to undertand.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Dave Marthouse <dmarthouse at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>       Just my two cents worth here but if third party solutions for
>> >> solving this problem exist that depend on human volunteers there will
>> >> always
>> >> be problems from time to time.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know if such a service is viable but what about some kind of
>> >> subscription service that will pay people to sit and solve captias at
>> least
>> >> during regular business hours.  Let's say a site that is on-line from 9
>> >> till
>> >> 5 every business day that pays the captia solver minimum wage.  That
>> would
>> >> cost $16,000 a year.  That's 1,000 subscriptions at $16 a year.  Let's
>> add
>> >> #3,000 for a cushion.  That makes it a subscription of around #20 a
>> >> year
>> >> per
>> >> user.
>> >>
>> >> Even though the blind community isn't the most prosperous in the world
>> >> taken
>> >> as a hole a $20 a year fey is a little more than a cost of a steak
>> dinner.
>> >>
>> >> This isn't a perfect answer and what I've outlined above isn't a
>> long-term
>> >> solution but it is at least a possible stop gap measure till some kind
>> of
>> >> permanent solution can be put into place.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dave Marthouse
>> >> dmarthouse at gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
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