[gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?

[Peter Donahue]

Hello again everyone,

Another fly in the ointment is that if it's technically feasible for the NFB 
and other partners to develop an interface to allow a blind person to drive 
a car independently it's also possible for us to work with screen reader 
developers and others to put CAPTCHA at -solving capability into their 
products, so the accessibility problems they pose for the blind and 
deaf-blind are eliminated while preventing spam bots from accessing the 
site. The solution to the problem of a blind-drivable car and the ability of 
screen readers to solve captchas are not simple one-size-fits-all fix yet we 
proved to ourselves that we are capable of solving such complex solutions.

    Well at least one community of Web developers with no connection to the 
blind community or the organized blind movement rose to the challenge and 
tackled the problem with success. I know this first-hand from having 
successfully implemented it on a Web site this past month. See everyone in 
Orlando.

Peter Donahue who is tired of hearing broken records.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List" 
<gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?


The fly in the ointment is that if it's technically feasible for 
screen-reader developers to put CAPTCHA at -solving capability into their 
products, so can spammers. The solution to the problem is not a simple 
one-size-fits-all fix.

Mike

On Jun 27, 2011, at 9:46, "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> The real problem is that the major screen reader companies, FS and GW 
> Micro, have so far shown absolutely no interest in adding captcha solving 
> capabilities to JAWS and Window Eyes, respectively.  This should certainly 
> be technically feasible.
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List" 
> <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?
>
>
>> Not enough money; not enough personnel. I also heard a rumor that the 
>> person operating it has been ill.
>>
>> If you ask me, *any* service dependent upon human interaction is bound to 
>> be less-than-reliable at best.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:20, Tai Blas <Tai.Blas at blind.state.ia.us> wrote:
>>
>>> What is going on with Solona? Every time I try to use it, I am unable 
>>> to.
>>> Tai
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________ _
>>> Tai Blas
>>> Transition Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
>>> Iowa Department for the Blind
>>> 524 Fourth Street
>>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
>>> Office: (515) 281-1253
>>> Toll-free: (800) 362-2587
>>> Mobile: (515) 250-2160
>>> Email: tai.blas at blind.state.ia.us
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See what your state government is accomplishing at 
>>> http://www.idbonline.org
>>>
>>>
>>> One Iowa, One Unlimited Future
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 3:03 PM
>>> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?
>>>
>>>
>>> This could become a serious problem.  At some point, the software 
>>> developers at Webvisum will simply give up trying to keep up with each 
>>> new release of Firefox.  And because Solona is already on life support, 
>>> there soon may be no captcha solving solutions left.  I suggest hanging 
>>> onto Firefox 4 or earlier as long as you can.  Besides, the screen 
>>> readers won't be able to keep up with each new Firefox release, either.
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124 at aol.com>
>>> To: <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:21 PM
>>> Subject: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Ken here.  I read in Kim Komando's email that firefox has started a 
>>>> new
>>>> schedule they will be new versions of the browser every too months.  I
>>>> just got the update automaticly today and they are recommending you
>>>> install it since no more updates will be made for version 4.  So in two
>>>> months for example version 6 or maybe 5 point something or other.
>>>> Webvisum has been disabled since it isn't updated.  the firefox browser
>>>> says it will enable it if it has an update.  But can webvisum possible
>>>> keep up with a two months schedule?  is our capcha solver useless 
>>>> thanks
>>>> to this new timetable by firefox?
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