[gui-talk] Captcha Alternatives

Mon Jun 27 15:43:37 UTC 2011

Hello Steve and everyone,

    Project Honeypot may have error correction capability. I'll need to 
explore that further. The IP check is just one of a number of tests 
CFFormProtects performs to separate humans from robots. As I said we need to 
gather information about plug-ins and utilities of this kind created for all 
Web environments to evaluate them so we know their strengths and weaknesses. 
Being able to keep this screening in the background would go a long way to 
eliminating the accessibility issues posed by Captchas.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List" 
<gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Captcha Alternatives

Peter,

I believe that we need to explore other options for CAPTCHAs.  I'll have to 
learn more about the Cold Fusion plug-in,
but the idea of comparing addresses with known spammers' addresses is not a 
cure-all.  Part of our trouble is that it is
hard to find a cure-all.  I had an experience, for example, where my IP 
Address was considered to be spam by
Baracuda Networks.  They had a correction process, but it involved using a 
CAPTCHA with no audio alternative, but
that's another story.  Still, I have seen other IP Blocking systems that 
have seriously inconvenienced individuals.  Any
system needs to have a clear and quick way to correct errors without undoing 
the security they are trying to provide.
Of course, if they have a clear process, there probably is nothing to 
prevent spammers to overload that process out of
spite.  Do you know if the Honeypot.com project has the ability to correct 
errors?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson
how this project We

On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:20:33 -0500, Peter Donahue wrote:

>Hello everyone,

>    This whole issue has caused me to seek out alternatives to captchas and
>the problems they cause for all Web site visitors. Being a ColdFusion
>developer I was delighted to discover a utility called "CFForm Protect."
>This plug-in does its work behind-the-scenes and requires no user
>interaction removing the need to deal with traditional captchas and the
>accessibility issues they create for the blind. To learn more about CFForm
>Protect visit:
>http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/

>    To see a demonstration of how it works visit:
>http://www.nfb-writers-division.net/blog

>    We currently have CFForm Protect running on the blog and will role it
>out to other interactive components of this Web site in the coming months.
>I'll also be installing it on several other ColdFusion sites I'm creating 
>or
>will build in the future. Want to give it a go? Select the link to the blog
>post and leave a comment. In your comment type more than six URLS, enter
>words and phrases such as free music download, or Viagra and see what
>happens. In the future CFForm Protects capabilities will be enhanced by
>linking it to Akismet and Project Honeypot.com.

>    One idea I suggested to control spam while not locking out blind Web
>surfers is to find a utility that will compare a would-be spammer's IP
>address with those of known spammers and preventing that spam bot from
>entering data in to the form. Project Honeypot does exactly that! The IP
>address of an entity attempting to fill out a Web form is compared with
>Honeypot's extensive database of IP Addresses of known spammers. If a match
>is not found the entity is allowed to fill out the Web site form. If a 
>match
>is found the entity attempting to fill out the form is prevented from doing
>so thus protecting the site's owners from spam bots. Working with CFForm
>Protect Project Honeypot gathers flagged form entries belonging to would-be
>spammers and adds their IP addresses to its database. Hence we can do a
>little community service as well as protecting our Web sites from spam bots
>all with out creating accessibility barriers for blind computer users!
>Project Honeypot is a free service.

>    Akismet is a paid service that can determine if the entity filling out 
> a
>Web form is a spammer or not. If it flaggs the entity as a spammer it
>notifies the site owner so they can take further action.

>    My discovery of CFFormProtect has me wondering if there are similar
>plugging, components, and utilities developed for other Web development
>environments: ASP, PHP, ASP.NET, ETC. Perhaps this is a matter for our
>Webmasters and the IBTC to explore and gather information about these
>products and services. Whenever someone seeks our help to make their Web
>site accessible we can recommend the installation of one of these programs
>instead of captchas and the problems they create for blind and deaf-blind
>computer users. Just thought I would spread the word.

>Peter Donahue

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124 at aol.com>
>To: <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:21 PM
>Subject: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?

>Hi Ken here.  I read in Kim KomandoG?Ts email that firefox has started a 
>new
>schedule they will be new versions of the browser every too months.  I just
>got the update automaticly today and they are recommending you install it
>since no more updates will be made for version 4.  So in two months for
>example version 6 or maybe 5 point something or other.  Webvisum has been
>disabled since it isnG?Tt updated.  the firefox browser says it will enable 
>it
>if it has an update.  But can webvisum possible keep up with a two months
>schedule?  is our capcha solver useless thanks to this new timetable by
>firefox?
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