[gui-talk] iTunes and iPhone

[Trevor Saunders]

HI,

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 06:50:24AM -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
> Actually, although this isn't the venue (strictly-speaking) for an
> extensive discussion of this matter and, to a minimal extent, I
> share your disbelief that this could have happened, I observe that
> this is by no means the first or only time when engineers have let
> flubs get through the testing procedure gauntlet (can you say Toyota
> or Tacoma Narrows Bridge?) 

I'm not suprised, I've seen this stuff in mac things before.  I gues I was to suttle in how I said no to the people who claim macs are perfect.

> and I also observe that part of the
> problem lies in the mentality of users (shared by many on this and
> other NFB lists) that they want their devices to do everything! The
> iPhone 4 handles wi-fi, GSM and several other connection methods and
> there are only a limited number of places one can *put* an antenna
> on a device, especially if one is using at least three antennas.

ultimately as we get 4g / wimax etc I think the multiple antenna problem will go away, one antena that does everything.  I do like wifi on my phone, I'll be really happy when verizon pushes android 2.2 and I can do wifi teathering for fre.

> Personally, I think cellular phones should handle *only* phone calls

not on topic, but email / web / ssh etc on my phone is pretty useful.

> and should all have rubber flex (known as rubber duck) antennas such
> as ham radio handy-talkies do; we'd all get more bars that way. But
> no -- we gotta have everything in one device. IMO we're seeing the
> consequence and the iPhone is by no means the only phone with such
> problems.

ok, I don't know the electronics
nical engineering part.  I personally am fine with antennas coming out
/ coated in rubber etc I think the problem especially with apple stuff
is the drive to look shiney.

 yeah, we're drifting from the gui part of phones. :-)

Trev

> 
> Mike
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Saunders"
> <trev.saunders at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] iTunes and iPhone
> 
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 08:13:12PM -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
> >>Actually, there are two parts to this saga. First, Apple incorrectly
> >>implemented the algorithm for computing the number of "bars" or
> >>signal strength the iPhone is receiving. They've released a fix for
> >>this dated yesterday.
> >
> >I thought they marketed there stuff as being more polished /
> >perfected? It's not that hard to get this right.
> >
> >>Second, the antenna problem has to do with how one holds the phone.
> >>Hold it in a certain position and signal strength goes down but in
> >>other position, there's no problem. Mr. Jobs will send anyone a case
> >>who (if I recall correctly) buys an iPhone 4 by September 30.
> >
> >The report I heard was that if you got the spot just right calls get
> >dropped 100% of the time.  What a fine example of their "superior user
> >interface"?  touch the phone the right way, and it always drops calls.
> >If they insist on being able to control what people can do with their
> >phones the way they do they could atleast get there own stuff right.
> >
> ></troll>
> >
> >Trev
> >
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tai Blas"
> >><Tai.Blas at blind.state.ia.us>
> >>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 6:25 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] iTunes and iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >>You may want to wait to get iPhone 4 until Apple figures out a fix
> >>for poor reception.
> >>
> >>Tai
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >>[mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:58 PM
> >>To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> >>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] iTunes and iPhone
> >>
> >>You betchya. Running XP SP3 though.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Tai Blas" <Tai.Blas at blind.state.ia.us>
> >>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:21 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] iTunes and iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >>>A laptop from November 1983? Really?
> >>>
> >>>Tai
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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