[gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials

Trevor Saunders trev.saunders at gmail.com
Tue Jul 13 14:48:58 UTC 2010 

Hi,

Personally I use linux, but here are some comments on the compatability
issue.
open office produces files in the actual microsoft formats, the only
microsoft format I haven't seen it support is the one for access, and
when I needed that I found a different utility that could do that.  I
have heard that openoffice sometimes has trouble formating things from
word documents correctly, but have never personally seen this, and
wonder if it is a formating issue that is correct in what the
accessibility api sees.
mp3 is a standard format, there are some patent issues I believe, but
it is standardized and any OS should be ale to deal with it.
networking is also all standardized protocols (tcp/ip dhcp etc), so it is no suprise
that a mac can use the same network.
 given a choice I would probably use a networked printer, then you
shouldn't have to worry about drivers, but hardware may be an issue.

Trev

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 08:56:01AM -0500, Steve Jacobson wrote:
> Rob,
> 
> These are all good points.  I must say, though, that I was surprised to find that my Daughter's MAC was able to connect to our home network and copy files she 
> needed from the Windows computer she had been using and all seemed to work.  She has e-mailed me files from her MAC prepared both in TextEdit and in Open 
> Office for me to print and they printed all right.  She had to pick a format in Open Office that emulated Microsoft office or RTF, though, but  it worked.  She saved a 
> song for me in MP3 format on her MAC and put it on a jump drive that I, in turn, put in my Windows laptop and copied the MP3 file to my computer.  The apple 
> system does use some extra files that are hidden on the MAC, so I had to sort through what was there to find the file I wanted.  In short, I would not ignore the 
> compatibility issue, but I have been surprised at what we have been able to do.  However, I had a little Dell printer that I was hoping she could use and there just 
> seems no way to get it to work.  In doing some searches, I find that telling the MAC that the printer is really a particular Lexmark printer mostly works.  Therefore, 
> hardware compatibility can still be an issue.  However, a Samsung printer I have seems to work fine on the MAC or on Windows, although it sometimes needs to be 
> reset when changing from one computer to the other.
> 
> I say all of this only to make the point that some of what I assumed would be an issue has been less of one than I had thought.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:05:41 -0500,  Rob Tabor wrote:
> 
> >Hello Laura and List.
> 
> >The OS compatibility dilemma is exactly what I tried to address in a recent 
> >posting, albeit not as artfully as Laura's observations and concerns. Having 
> >no direct experience in the Apple environment I am unable to respond 
> >directly to Laura's question. However, I have heard that the 
> >interoperability problem rears its two janice-like ugly heads, namely file 
> >sharing and network interface. The first problem it appears could be 
> >remedied by installing dual OS's which seems like an inefficient way to do 
> >your IT, or by making use of a web based collaboration platform such as 
> >Google Chrome, which may not yet be ready for prime time. I suspect the 
> >network interface problem is much more complicated but I'll defer judgment 
> >to the techies among us. Then, as mentioned by Mr. Foret, Linix based 
> >systems add a whole new layer of corporate and consumer choices.
> 
> >I mention these issues to encourage anyone who is entering into the personal 
> >IT arena for the first time or who contemplate changing to a different OS to 
> >consider these issues carefully and to take the choice that meets one's I.T 
> >needs 90 percent of the time.
> 
> >Best regards,
> >Rob Tabor and White Cane Ra?l
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
> >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:55 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials
> 
> 
> >> the only thing that a windowss groupie could say about that is that Mac
> >> doesn't get viruses because it is not yet popular enough to have the bad
> >> guys attacking it.  If it has a simple installation protocol, then it is 
> >> all
> >> the easier for bad stuff to quietly install itself in there as well.
> >> I don't know enough to say this is plausible, I'm only speaking from 
> >> general
> >> experience with unix and windows.
> >> I'm concerned about interoperability between mac and pc.    I have an old
> >> mac that I hardle ever use.  Virtually all of my activity is on my windows
> >> laptops.
> >> I want to move to mac for some activities but worry I won't be able to
> >> exchange files between mac and pc without compatibility problems.
> >> Has anyone else resolved this problem?
> >> TIA
> >> --le
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
> >> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:27 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials
> >>
> >>
> >> I suppose what I am about to say could be considered a shot at windows,
> >> though that is not what I am intending here, indeed, if someone is going 
> >> to
> >> say something is better than something else, they should provide reasons 
> >> for
> >> it. So, I will provide a few reasons why I think the mac operating system 
> >> is
> >> better, aside from the fact that the screen reader is built in of course.
> >> The fact that it's much more difficult to get a virus on the mac has 
> >> already
> >> been covered, so let's look at a few other things, particularly with
> >> applications. As someone who works in tech support, I get several calls 
> >> from
> >> users attempting to install our software, and receive errors that files
> >> cannot register, or there are conflicts with different versions of the 
> >> same
> >> file on someone's system. The mac does not have these problems. In most
> >> cases, the application is simply copied to the applications folder, and 
> >> when
> >> it is run, it creates the preference files that it will use. If you want 
> >> to
> >> uninstall a program, simply delete it from the applications folder, and go
> >> to your library folder and delete the preference files. No need to worry
> >> about shared files, and no left over entries cluttering up a registry.
> >> Clearly, when it comes to applications, the mac operating system has a
> >> better approach
> >> On Jul 11, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, of course, point taken.  Now, here's the funny thing about that.  I
> >>> find myself now doing the very thing I said I would never do.  Gives one
> >>> pause for thought doesn't it?  Looks like you win one.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry about that.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>
> >>> E-Mail:
> >>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
> >>> Skype Name:
> >>> barefootedray
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:47 AM, David Andrews wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Why is it that Mac users almost always have to take a shot at Windows?
> >>>> If I want religion I will go to church.  If I want to do some work I 
> >>>> will
> >>>> use the computer/OS of my choice!
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> At 08:05 AM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
> >>>>> Frankly, I'd have to agree with Mike.  IF you feel you must continue to
> >>>>> run Windows, (for what ever strange reason), Just couldn't resist
> >>>>> that...yes, Microsoft Security Essentials is indeed a good solution.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>>
> >>>>                       David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
> >>>> Follow me on Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
> >>>>
> >>>>
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