[gui-talk] Different plan of attack

[Doug Lee]

Thanks for the compliment :)  but it turns out I oversimplified one
part of my description.

I said "

	- For now at least, when possible, provide text blocks outside the
	  Flash content (in HTML) rather than inside it, because a lot of
	  text that is not within an actionable control is not presented
	  to screen readers by the Player.  (This recommendation comes
	  from observations I have made myself more than from professional
	  work I have done or from recommendations from a more reliable
	  source.  As such, it is subject to correction.)

A coworker (Jon Avila) adjusted my description by saying

Flash accessibility does not expose structure such as headings, bulleted lists,
etc and thus document type text is best placed outside.

So apparently text itself isn't the problem I thought, but the
recommendation for keeping text blocks outside of Flash when possible
stands for another reason.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:46:40AM -0500, Hoffman, Allen wrote:
Doug Lee has this described perfectly.
 
I must admit, however, it would sound like we had a real problem with
flash if we raise heck over something other than gaming.  If the
problems were noted in benefits-related, or work-related contexts it
would be a lot more powerful complaint.  I don't deny anyone the right
to have equal access, but if folks are prioritizing, gaming probably
won't be at the top of their lists.
 
If you want to start jumping on gaming problems, why are the WII,
Playstation, and Xbox games so inaccessible when their corporate
sponsors and technical platforms are perfectly capable of providing TTS,
and STT?  Who has contacted Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft about how to
integrate accessibility, and also ensure accessibiity in such
games-these are large corporations in a multi-billion dollar industry
for accessibility's sake, and they don't do any of it!  The only
accessible WII game I've heard of so far is some MIT thing about
music-is that all blind folks do is music?  Just as an example, if only
small amounts of verbal output were aded to the WII bowling, it would be
fully accessible for people who are blind.  Some games like Mario Cart
are just not going to be accessible, but there are lots of games that
can be.  Just getting your hands on the development tools for such
platforms is an exercise not taken on by the feint of heart.
 
Anyway, thanks Doug for the great synopsis of flash accessibility stak.
Its important for folks to understand the interrelationships of these
components, and in nearly all such systems these same types of component
breakdowns exist.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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