[gui-talk] Jaws Daisy updates

Mon Jan 11 02:22:04 UTC 2010

L.

that all worked fine for me. I have an icon, call it shortcut if you prefer, 
that Jaws installs on the Desktop when it installs. So I didn't have to poke 
around the Start/Programs menus to get to FS Reader.

Also,But that's about it. All the training files I'd downloaded and 
installed were listed, and I pretty much got the hang of reading and 
navigating, although a little bumpily, sometimes. F6 may take you *into* a 
file you've hit Enter on, but unlike in most Windows-type arrangements like 
this, F6 won't take you back into the tree view you came from. At least for 
me, it didn't work and I had to just exit Alt F4 now and then. Also, I might 
start reading a doc about, say, Research It, and by default, Jaws would 
speak. But if I pressed control P to pause, then control P again to toggle 
back to resume speaking, I'd get one of those human voices, an American 
male. Not so terrible, but I had been fine with Jaws/eloquence. I had to 
fiddle around a little bit, pressing Control P repeatedly and then pressing 
the Say All command at some point to get Eloquence to return. At times, 
Eloquence was speaking not quite in time with that human voice, in fact it 
was reporting things I did with controls and menu commands while the human 
voice kept reading the Research It text. I don't know. I guess I'll figure 
it out. Or not, maybe. Who knows?

J.

From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Jaws Daisy updates

Hi Joel --
You can look for the FS reader in the start menu under
programs\freedom scientific\fs reader.
Run that and do a little configuring to indicate whether you want to use
jaws or have it be self voicing, then open a book on your book shelf. If you
type control+o you should get a flat list of all the titles.  If your books
are somewhere other than in the default folder, you need to shift+tab a bit
and change the folder.  The reader will search all folders under the root
folder for daisy books.

Now when you have your list of books, just arrow to one and hit enter.  You
will be in a window with 2 sections -- the navigation section and the text
section.  You start in the navigation. Here, depending on what kind of daisy
markup was included in the daisy, you may see page numbers, or chapters,
etc.  Just select the point where you want to start reading and hit tab and
you will be in the text pane.  Here you can listen, or search or arrow
around and set and label bookmarks.
(I use jaws rather than the self voicing. I don't know how different it is
using SV.)
And there appears to be a way to make annotations, but frankly, I have never
figured out how that is supposed to work.

Just get in and poke around and it should become straightforward.
HTH and have fun.
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "GUI-Talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:55 AM
Subject: [gui-talk] Jaws Daisy updates

Good morning all,
I took the bait when someone on this list announced that a boatload of new
FS instruction files were available, went to my Jaws page by Insert J (I
have Jaws running as a service in the system tray), checked off and
downloaded and, I guess, installed,  a lot of the books listed there.

it took many minutes, during which I was away from the computer and barely
heard what must have been one progress bar after another.

When that stopped, and I sat back down at the computer, there was a dialogue
that said little except that the whole operation had concluded, and offering
an OK button to finish it off.

then it went back to my Outlook Express Inbox and kept reading through all
the email titles in it until I managed to shut it up.

Well, what now? I haven't tried out this stuff in ages. I'm not on
Bookshare, either, so I don't get any practice with Daisy there, either.

So what do I do to bring up these books, one at a time, and look through
them? Where do I find the basic instructions or  how to use the FS Reader?
I'm just staring at my OE Inbox as if nothing had happened, sort of, and
wondering how to get started on self-instruction today.

I know these are awfully basic questions, you guys. Help will be
appreciated.
Joel

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