[gui-talk] Jaws won't say "control C" on foldernamesinWindowsExplorer

Tue Jan 5 20:01:34 UTC 2010

Well, just want to say that I just succeeded in copying a file from an 
inserted  thumb drive into a folder on my laptop's hard drive. No hassle at 
all. And it didn't involve having to tap the space bar to select a file that 
was already highlighted, i.e., in Jaws's focus. Just as I said. If I'd 
wanted to copy not only that file but the file above or beneath it, I'd have 
held down the space bar. Or if I'd wanted to copy that file plus one or more 
others that weren't immediately contiguous to that file, I'd have held down 
Control and tapped the space bar whenever I arrowed to a file I also wanted 
to select in order to do a multiple file copy.

See? I've got a handle on all that. My problem was that ordinary methods, 
very similar, suddently failed to work not on a file, please understand, but 
on a folder beneath the c drive or on the thumb drive. I'm accustomed to 
moving entire folders around sometimes using the same sort of method, and 
it's here that Jaws said "nothing selected" when I tried that totally normal 
move.
I'll have to wait until I have occasion to try to move a folder again, then 
I'll report if I still can't manage it the normal Windows keyboard way, but 
still have to resort to the Applications Context menu.

Thanks for bearing with me,
Joel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Jaws won't say "control C" on 
foldernamesinWindowsExplorer

Lloid is correct on this. Each time I open Windows Explorer/My
Computer and land in the list view, the first item is always
unselected. Selected or unselected aside though, Joel, the tree view
is the part of the window you can arrow up and down in, and then use
right arrow to open a branch and left arrow to close a branch. The
list view only lets you arrow up/down in, and use the other various
list view commands. You can't use left/right arrow in a list view. I
suppose perhaps to select a file, but you could also press space to do
this as well, as has been noted here.

As for unloading and loading JAWS, this goes back to basic
troubleshootting steps that every screen reader user should know. Not
knocking you for not knowing, but now would be a good time to learn.
The steps are as follows: perform a JAWS screen refresh with Insert
Escape, unload and reload JAWS, and reboot the computer. Some people
throw in 2 additional steps of maximizing the window and
closing/reopening the application, but even these 3 steps first listed
would get the job done. When loading JAWS, you need to either have a
hotkey setup for JAWS and/or be able to access the JAWS item on the
desktop without speech.

Hope all this helps,
Wayne

On 1/5/10, Lloyd Rasmussen <lras at sprynet.com> wrote:
> If I use the tree view (the pane on the left) to select a folder, then tab
> into the right-hand pane where the files and subfolders can be examined or
> selected, nothing is selected when I land there.  To select anything, I 
> must
> use an arrow key, Home, End, PgDn, etc. to move away from that starting
> place, or press spacebar to do the selection in place.  The starting place
> in the right-hand pane is whatever you reach with the Home key, but this 
> is
> determined by the sort order you have applied to that folder.
>
> Anyway, I hope you get it figured out.
>
> We don't have an option to repair Window-Eyes.  All we an do is uninstall
> and reinstall it.  <grin>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, Maryland
> Home:  http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> Work:  http://www.loc.gov/nls
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:54 AM
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Jaws won't say "control C" on folder
>> namesinWindowsExplorer
>>
>> Lloyd,
>>
>> this is true in a lot of cases, but is completely irrelevant when you
>> simply
>> land on a filename with your arrow key and it speaks. It's selected, 
>> then.
>> The only reason to involve the space bar is when you want to select
>> contiguous or non-contiguous files along with that one, in that folder. I
>> hope I'm understanding you correctly. Because on my desktop, and on every
>> computer I've used with every bersion of Jaws and three versions of
>> Windows,
>> just landing on a filename or a folder name selects it. This has always
>> been
>> true for me. If pressing the space bar now, for some reason, has the
>> effect
>> of officially selecting whatever my cursor's on, that will be 
>> interesting.
>> But it's not gonna happen that way on my desktop, also running Win XP, I
>> assure you. Again, you only need to use the space bar to select when
>> you're
>> selecting more than just the filename your cursor's on. Honest. If 
>> playing
>> with the space bar turns out to fix my problem, I'll let you know. But I
>> doubt it will.
>
>
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