[gui-talk] Just realized: I have no DVD drive for new Jaws 11

Sun Nov 1 16:30:50 UTC 2009

Wayne,

thanks. Agreed on all points. I've been procuring my new Jaws versions by 
download for a few versions by now, rather than wait for the CD, as the most 
recent download is already an update or two enhanced and I didn't need or 
care about the other stuff on the CD, now the DVD. I do have a CD ROM drive, 
but now that's irrelevant. I think my coming laptop purchase will include a 
DVD drive, too, and that's just fine. But not particularly relevant here, 
one way or the other, unless I just happen to feel like installing Jaws on 
the laptop from the DVD and then updating it from the Help menu.

Six of one, half dozen of the other, I'd say.  Thanks again.

Joel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Just realized: I have no DVD drive for new Jaws 11

Yes, exactly. That's what I've been doing the last few years. The
things that are on the DVD that you might want, but could also
download from the fS site, include the Daisy training material and the
voices. Like I say though, you can get both of these from the FS site
or, in the case of the Daisy training material, by doing the Check for
Updates item in the JAWS Help menu. Whenever I get the CD/DVD that
JAWS comes on, it goes straight into my desk drawer with the other
JAWS CD's. The other big change is that you can preview and download
individual voices from the FS site. I completely understand what
you're saying about the voices and agree. I've tried the voices
before, but have found them to be slower in responsiveness than the
Eloquence voices. Why mess with what works?

Hth,
Wayne

On 10/31/09, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> that's nice and convenient, in my case. Just out of curiosity, is there 
> any
> element in the new version that I'll actually miss out on without 
> installing
> via the physical DVD? Maybe those voices? I have to admit I've never 
> gotten
> into using them for Say All or any purpose, really, although I'm aware 
> that
> some Jaws users really dig them, like to assign different voices to
> different functions, and all kinds of stuff. I just never got into it, and
> rely on the Eloquence Perfect Paul or whatever he's called the last few
> versions for everything except what's assigned by default (like the Jaws
> cursor) to the deeper voice that used to be called Rocco. I guess someone 
> at
> Eloquence decided that was anti-Italian because it hinted at a  Mafia
> wiseguy or something?
>
> But I go on,. Sorry. So you think I can just download and install 
> everything
> straight from FS and just plunk the DVD into a drawer when it finally 
> shows
> up in my mailbox?
>
> thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Just realized: I have no DVD drive for new Jaws 11
>
>
> For what it's worth, the new free FS Reader application is included
> with the JAWS installation file, so there's no separate file to
> download/install.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 10/30/09, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> Please, please read all this message before replying. thanks.
>>
>>  I know I can download Jaws 11 with my SMA credit , and how to do it. I
>> know
>> I can then download new training materials, too. I confess I don't know 
>> if
>>
>> I
>> can download the new full-function Daisy player, also, or will have to 
>> use
>> the limited version to read those training files. But I'm not worried
>> about
>> that, yet. Now here's my question:
>>
>> Up until now, whether I've downloaded my new Jaws from the FS site 
>> instead
>> of waiting for the CD and its few extras like voices, at least I've been
>> able to insert the CD if necessary. But I just realized that my Dell
>> Dimension 3000, five years old, doesn't *have* a DVD drive, only a CD ROM
>> drive.
>>
>> Yes, I know there are outboard DVD drives I could buy and, what, plug 
>> into
>>
>> a
>> USB port? Not too expensive, either? But is that the only way I'll ever 
>> be
>> able to use the Jaws 11 disc with this computer?
>> Is anyone else here using an older computer and also upgrading to Jaws 
>> 11?
>> How do you intend to deal with this? Just download whatever you can and
>> toss
>> the DVD into a drawer?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Joel
>>
>>
>>
>>
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