[gui-talk] Voiceover

[Mike Arrigo]

 From what I have heard, switching to group mode for navigating web  
tables works very well, haven't tried it though since I just read  
tables using the dom navigation and I am able to get the information  
without problems.
On Jul 26, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

> Until one can read tabular data on the Mac on the web, the browser  
> wouldn't
> be worth much to me at all, and that would be a major reason why I  
> wouldn't
> get involved with Voice Over.  Tables are crucial for many things.
>
> Dean
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Voiceover
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> Hi, I love surfing the web on the mac. The speed of loading pages
> blows any windows browser or screen reader away. For one thing,
> there's no waiting around while a page is loaded in to a buffer. One
> site that is good for testing your screen reader's speed is
> empowermentzone.com. On the mac, this page loads in under 2 seconds. I
> have done many different things while browsing on the mac such as
> buying things on ebay, paying bills, etc, works great. Yes, safari is
> the browser of choice at this time.
> On Jul 25, 2009, at 9:01 PM, albert griffith wrote:
>
>> Mike, you stated the Mac's browser had no tables mode.  That flaw not
>> withstanding how would you describe your surfing experiences
>> generally?
>> Thanks, Do those using Voiceover navigate the internet with Safari?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:28 PM
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Voiceover
>>
>> Hi, it's definitely ready for prime time, and is used by many blind
>> users, I'm using it as I type this message. As far as advantages and
>> disadvantages, the main advantage is that it is built in to the
>> ooperating system, as a blind person, you pay no more than anyone  
>> else
>> for accessibility. There are of course differences with the mac
>> compared to windows, so there is a bit of a learning curve at first,
>> the only other possible disadvantage I could see for some people is
>> that on web pages, there is no table navigation mode. I don't see  
>> this
>> as a big thing, since I never use this even in windows. The macintosh
>> has become my primary computer, and I use it far more than windows. I
>> would put the functionality of voice over against the windows screen
>> readers any day, you can do just as much I think.
>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:26 AM, tunecollector wrote:
>>
>>> This subject was discussed when Voiceover first came out but has
>>> anyone used
>>> it more intensively since then?  Is it ready for prime time?    What
>>> are its
>>> drawbacks.
>>>
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