[gui-talk] Voiceover

Dean Martineau dean at topdotenterprises.com
Sun Jul 26 15:49:53 UTC 2009


Until one can read tabular data on the Mac on the web, the browser wouldn't
be worth much to me at all, and that would be a major reason why I wouldn't
get involved with Voice Over.  Tables are crucial for many things.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:33 AM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Voiceover

Hi, I love surfing the web on the mac. The speed of loading pages  
blows any windows browser or screen reader away. For one thing,  
there's no waiting around while a page is loaded in to a buffer. One  
site that is good for testing your screen reader's speed is  
empowermentzone.com. On the mac, this page loads in under 2 seconds. I  
have done many different things while browsing on the mac such as  
buying things on ebay, paying bills, etc, works great. Yes, safari is  
the browser of choice at this time.
On Jul 25, 2009, at 9:01 PM, albert griffith wrote:

> Mike, you stated the Mac's browser had no tables mode.  That flaw not
> withstanding how would you describe your surfing experiences  
> generally?
> Thanks, Do those using Voiceover navigate the internet with Safari?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk- 
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:28 PM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Voiceover
>
> Hi, it's definitely ready for prime time, and is used by many blind
> users, I'm using it as I type this message. As far as advantages and
> disadvantages, the main advantage is that it is built in to the
> ooperating system, as a blind person, you pay no more than anyone else
> for accessibility. There are of course differences with the mac
> compared to windows, so there is a bit of a learning curve at first,
> the only other possible disadvantage I could see for some people is
> that on web pages, there is no table navigation mode. I don't see this
> as a big thing, since I never use this even in windows. The macintosh
> has become my primary computer, and I use it far more than windows. I
> would put the functionality of voice over against the windows screen
> readers any day, you can do just as much I think.
> On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:26 AM, tunecollector wrote:
>
>> This subject was discussed when Voiceover first came out but has
>> anyone used
>> it more intensively since then?  Is it ready for prime time?    What
>> are its
>> drawbacks.
>>
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