[gui-talk] Voiceover

[Mike Arrigo]

Hi, sure here it is. Admitedly, listening to my other pod casts first  
may be helpful since I do reference those, but here is the direct link  
to pod cast 8
http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1367MacDemo8.mp3
On Jul 25, 2009, at 11:31 PM, albert griffith wrote:

> Mike, would you provide the link to the site where your podcast  
> resides?  I
> need to read it if I'm going to support your assertion that the NFB  
> article
> written by Anne Taylor is, "rubbish," because it states certain  
> tasks are
> cumbersome and others can't be performed
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:34 PM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Voiceover
>
> Well said Kevin. That article in the braille monitor was complete
> Before losing my place in thsdrubbish. I understand if someone  
> decides it's
> not for them, that's
> their choice. But that article was simply incorrect, saying in many
> cases that something cannot be done when in fact it can. I've also
> done a complete pod cast on this article, demonstrating the things
> which supposedly can't be done.
> On Jul 25, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Kevin Fjelsted wrote:
>
>> VoiceOver is absolutely awesome. A superb resource for reading  
>> details
>> from a community perspective is http://www.lioncourt.com.
>> I thhink that the exciting thing about VoiceOver is that the stars  
>> are
>> aligned for us. 1) Apple is making record profits and is applying
>> resources in support of  VoiceOver access across there entire product
>> line including mobile devices. The fact that the NFB technology  
>> center
>> chooses to publish inaccuracies and propaganda
>> which is so misleading must mean that the existing companies like
>> Freedom Scientific are running scared and trying to rally resources  
>> to
>> quash VoiceOver usage. When ever we see established organizations
>> becoming defensive it is time to really dig under the covers and ask
>> the reasons why. In my opinion every blind person who relies on
>> accessibility technology for computers and mobile devices needs to
>> look at VoiceOver as well as the other technologies and proactively
>> push the envelope so that we can create momentum for transparency. My
>> question is, why aren't  all of the vendors  emulating the approach  
>> of
>> VoiceOver, which is to have built in accessibility to the device out
>> of the box without charging extra? WHen I can pay $190 for a cell
>> phone that has built in accessibility I find that amazing compared to
>> spending money for a cell phone and then having to turn around and  
>> buy
>> a 3rd party access solution that in many cases only works half baked.
>> Not only do I get a cell phone for $190 but I get all the built in
>> apps talking clock, calculator, maps, weather forecasting, text
>> messaging, address book management, calendaring including syncing  
>> with
>> other calendars. For years blind people have taken the position that
>> touch screens are the enemy and that we can't use them. Yet the  
>> IPhone
>> with VoiceOver is totally dependent on the touch screen. I do
>> everything with the touch screen look at email, update my calendar,
>> make phone calls,....   -Kevin Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM,
>> tunecollector<tunecollector at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> This subject was discussed when Voiceover first came out but has
>>> anyone used
>>> it more intensively since then?  Is it ready for prime time?
>>> What are its
>>> drawbacks.
>>>
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