[gui-talk] Voiceover

[albert griffith]

Mike, would you provide the link to the site where your podcast resides?  I
need to read it if I'm going to support your assertion that the NFB article
written by Anne Taylor is, "rubbish," because it states certain tasks are
cumbersome and others can't be performed 

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From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Voiceover

Well said Kevin. That article in the braille monitor was complete  
Before losing my place in thsdrubbish. I understand if someone decides it's
not for them, that's  
their choice. But that article was simply incorrect, saying in many  
cases that something cannot be done when in fact it can. I've also  
done a complete pod cast on this article, demonstrating the things  
which supposedly can't be done.
On Jul 25, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Kevin Fjelsted wrote:

> VoiceOver is absolutely awesome. A superb resource for reading details
> from a community perspective is http://www.lioncourt.com.
> I thhink that the exciting thing about VoiceOver is that the stars are
> aligned for us. 1) Apple is making record profits and is applying
> resources in support of  VoiceOver access across there entire product
> line including mobile devices. The fact that the NFB technology center
> chooses to publish inaccuracies and propaganda
> which is so misleading must mean that the existing companies like
> Freedom Scientific are running scared and trying to rally resources to
> quash VoiceOver usage. When ever we see established organizations
> becoming defensive it is time to really dig under the covers and ask
> the reasons why. In my opinion every blind person who relies on
> accessibility technology for computers and mobile devices needs to
> look at VoiceOver as well as the other technologies and proactively
> push the envelope so that we can create momentum for transparency. My
> question is, why aren't  all of the vendors  emulating the approach of
> VoiceOver, which is to have built in accessibility to the device out
> of the box without charging extra? WHen I can pay $190 for a cell
> phone that has built in accessibility I find that amazing compared to
> spending money for a cell phone and then having to turn around and buy
> a 3rd party access solution that in many cases only works half baked.
> Not only do I get a cell phone for $190 but I get all the built in
> apps talking clock, calculator, maps, weather forecasting, text
> messaging, address book management, calendaring including syncing with
> other calendars. For years blind people have taken the position that
> touch screens are the enemy and that we can't use them. Yet the IPhone
> with VoiceOver is totally dependent on the touch screen. I do
> everything with the touch screen look at email, update my calendar,
> make phone calls,....   -Kevin Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM,
> tunecollector<tunecollector at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> This subject was discussed when Voiceover first came out but has  
>> anyone used
>> it more intensively since then?  Is it ready for prime time?     
>> What are its
>> drawbacks.
>>
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