[gui-talk] Looking for instructions for understanding Facebooknonvisually

[David Andrews]

Gerald:

To be clear, m.Facebook.com is not their "accessibility site."  It is 
intended for small mobile devices, like phones and 
PDA's.  Consequently, they have simplified the site to work with 
these less sophisticated devices.  Any increased accessibility is 
probably just an accident.

Dave

At 05:25 PM 7/21/2009, you wrote:

>Try using the accessible version of Facebook, which is a lot easier 
>to navigate than the regular Facebook site:
>
>http://m.facebook.com/
>
>Gerald
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
>To: "GUI-Talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:23 PM
>Subject: [gui-talk] Looking for instructions for understanding 
>Facebooknonvisually
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>>I use Jaws 10 and IE 7. I've finally caught up with the times and gave up
>>enough of my habitual introversion to register on Facebook, but although
>>I've managed somehow to invite and be invited by a few friends, in general I
>>can't really understand how the site's functions work or what's going on
>>when one or the other site pages load in response to my activating this or
>>that link.
>>
>>The closest I can come by way of comparison is the main Amazon site, which
>>took me ages to become a pretty good navigator of, to the point where
>>choosing to use their simplified and less graphical mobile site is now a
>>choice, not a dependency, because I know so many screen elements to search
>>for and skip to and/or single letter Jaws commands to use.
>>
>>But I can't, at least  right now, imagine getting anywhere near such skill
>>with Facebook, not just because I can't simply see the layout of the pages,
>>which sighted friends assure me is a frightful mess even if you're not
>>dealing with a screen reader. it's because I don't understand most of the
>>terminology of the site and what the things Jaws speaks to me actually mean.
>>
>>Just for instance: I guess that commenting is an important way you maintain
>>a dynamic presence on the site. And with a couple words of helpful
>>suggestion from a sighted friend who's a little more up on things than I am,
>>I guess I learned that the word "status" and the updating of one's status
>>has nothing to do with your health, being coupled or single, and so forth.
>>it's more like what's up with you at the moment, or as the note on the
>>screen says, what's on your mind. So you're supposed to do what I read that
>>they do on twitter? Say I'm eating breakfast now and I just love this
>>banana! and that's your "status" pronouncement of the moment? Or something a
>>little more complex and wordy if you prefer, I guess. But that seems to be
>>the idea. The word "status" doesn't really mean anything, here, not in the
>>English I speak. But I think I get it, and that's what's important.
>>
>>Okay. So if I wanted to sort of blog on my part of the site, I'd type and
>>press Upload Status occasionally.
>>
>>Then people could comment, like say I hate bananas or sometimes a banana is
>>just a banana, Ingrid and the next person could just type LOL.
>>
>>but beneath each comment from someone on my Friends list, I see two links.
>>The first one says dash comment, which I guess is an invitation to type a
>>comment to someone else's posting. Okay. I'll try that sometime. But beneath
>>that, jaws says "dash Like." Now here's another example of ordinary words
>>whose meaning I obviously don't get on Facebook. if you click on Like, what
>>happens? have you voted for the comment you just read, for instance? I don't
>>see a "dislike" link. What else could it mean besides "I like that comment?"
>>I know this is a dumb, dumb question. but I don't get any of this, and I
>>have a feeling this is a really essential part of participation.
>>
>>I wanted to go on to ask what a Wall is, and what writing on it means, but
>>I'll save that. first I'd like to see if anyone knows anything to begin
>>with. And sure, if in the Help section of that site, somewhere, there's
>>actual instruction about what all this means and how to use the site so that
>>I could stop trying to intuit it navigating with Jaws and hearing all this
>>repetitious gibberish and ads, someone tell me where to look for education.
>>
>>Thanks, everybody.
>>Joel
>>
>>
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