[gui-talk] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: monetary support

Fri Apr 10 21:36:16 UTC 2009

I frankly wonder if Dr. Jernigan himself would have called that a
"gimic," either before or after the NFB involvement began.
Personally, I never thought of it as a "gimic."  To me, it was a
unique endeavor that could inspire both blind and sighted to look at
possibilities.  As I understand things, the "failure" was not really
due to a failure of the concept, but more a breakdown of personal
relationships.  I'm sure there's a lot I don't know, but that's how it
went down in my mind (no pun intended there btw).

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 01:53:40PM -0500, Don H wrote:
> I took part in a leadership seminar in Baltimore when I was the president 
> of a local chapter.  At that meeting Dr. Jernigan said he did not believe 
> in gimmicks to help the cause.  Shortly there after the NFB became 
> involved in the blind guy that was going to sail across the Atlantic was 
> sponsored by the NFB.  Of course it was a failure and a gimmick
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tunecollector" 
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>> So you are suggesting that it is more conducive to put money into some
>> public relations gimmick that basically benefit one individual rather than
>> doing something that would benefit thousands?  And the NGOs get into a
>> staring match with rehab rather than step forward to do something.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
>> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:24 AM
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>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [gui-talk] [Bulk] Re: monetary support
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>> One has to think about where one is going with support.  NVDA is
>> interesting, but if one were going to put money into it what would be the
>> desired result.  For one
>> thing, if we and others are putting money into it, it really isn't free 
>> any
>> longer is it?  When would we stop putting money into it?  The fact is that
>> technology is
>> constantly changing and the perfect screen reader can therefore never be
>> built.  To keep a screen reader up to date even once it works well is  
>> going
>> to take an on-
>> going stream of money, and a good free screen reader supported by the NFB
>> and others simply leaves the rehabilitation agency and employers off the
>> hook for
>> providing some of the support for accessibility we need.  If we have a
>> specific thing we'd like to see happen with NVDA or other open source  
>> screen
>> reader, such as
>> seeing if a particular approach to a problem is workable, then putting  
>> some
>> money toward making that happen as a proof of concept for example would 
>> make
>> sense
>> to me.
>>
>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:12:55 -0700, tunecollector wrote:
>>
>>> Really?  Didn't NFB pay for a blind guy to climb Mount Everest?
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 7:44 PM
>>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [gui-talk] monetary support
>>
>>> NFB has traditionally not favored any screen-reading software package
>>> over any other. Also, there's only so much money to go around.
>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hoffman, Allen" 
>>> <Allen.Hoffman at dhs.gov>
>>> To: <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 6:38 AM
>>> Subject: [gui-talk] monetary support
>>
>>
>>> does anyone know if ACB, AFB, or NFB has provided any monetary support
>>> to the NVDA project to date?  If not, why not?  If so, how much and who
>>> can we thank?
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