[gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Tue Apr 7 02:42:24 UTC 2009

I believe you can now download the file which comes on your diskette.

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:34 PM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Dave,

Well, next time I get a new PC, I won't worry too much about it having a 
floppy drive. The only thing it ever gets used for is the diskette of the 
NLS Talking Book Topics text files that I do appreciate receiving quarterly 
or whatever it is. Maybe there's some other way to get Talking Book Topics. 
No, not Braille. I don't read Braille. And I'm not going to listen through 
one of those interminable lists of books I don't care about in each category

just to hope I hear one or two titles or authors I'm interested in. So if 
someone knows what I'd do if I didn't have a floppy drive, about this I 
mean, speak up, okay?

And I just didn't remember right. I misremembered Apple computers as never 
having had floppy drives, starting back with the lode pre-Macintosh models. 
But they gave it up  ore recently? Okay. Thanks.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Joel:  A couple minor points -- you can still order some PC's with a
floppy drive, although their inclusion these days is pretty
rare.  Secondly, Mac's have not had a floppy drive for some time 7 or
8 years I think, but they used to have one.

Dave

At 09:56 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
>Floppy disk? Well, I still have an A drive where I can use 3 1/2 inch
>floppies, myself, and my Dell is about four years old. I didn't know they
>didn't make the slot anymore. I mean on PCs, not Macs. I know Macs don't 
>and
>never did have a floppy drive, in the old days or more recently.
>
>But that's at the very top of my tower, practically, I thought this thing
>was down where the USB ports are. Also, what sort of player are you talking
>about? What does that have to do with this? I'm confused. Someone must get
>this, but between floppies and some sort of player, i don't get what you're
>saying.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 6:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>
>One reason it's not universal is that just a few years ago people were 
>still
>using floppies and that space in the front of the computer was used up by
>their player.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:29 PM
>To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>Dave,
>
>that sounds like such an obvious and practical feature for a personal
>computer. hard to believe that's not nearly universal. Interesting.
>or rfor
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 1:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>
>Finally, Joel, some computers -- particularly laptops have built-in
>card readers that accept one or more types of cards.
>
>Dave
>
>At 03:18 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> >yeah, you're right. When I read an occaisonal review of a camera, or talk
> >to
> >a friend about something they did with their camera, I remember hearing
> >about jut plugging a cable into the USB port. Okay. So they don't all 
> >have
> >these multiple outlet gismos. I see.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:26 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> >
> >
> >They may have card readers, or those external devices, like cameras,
> >may have an USB connection that they can connect to their PC with a 
> >cable.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >At 09:51 AM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> > >you must be talking about things I don't use except within the body of 
> > >my
> > >own computer, right? Like a memory stick from another computer, or the
> > >memory cards of various sorts that you stick into things like blind
> > >reading
> > >devices or digital cameras, stuff like that. Now am I geting it?  You
> > >mean
> > >all my normally sighted friends who have digital cameras all have some
> > >sort
> > >of card reader that comes with it and plugs into their USB port where
> > >I've
> > >got my thumb drive plugged in and sometimes take it out and plug in my
> > >mobile .mp3 player so I can copy a music file to it or copy an
> > >audible.com
> > >book from Audible Manager to it?
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> > >To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:05 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > >
> > >
> > >Not quite right.  This won't accept thumb drives.  It reads various 
> > >kinds
> > >of
> > >memory sticks and cards.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> > >On
> > >Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:31 AM
> > >To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > >
> > >Dave,
> > >
> > >Well, I have one thumb drive stuck into a front-side USB port all the
> > >time
> > >to which I copy various things I want to keep backed up from my hard
> > >drive.
> > >So if I'm understanding you, this is some sort of device that provides
> > >extra
> > >
> > >input slots for more such things, sort of the way a power strip lets 
> > >you
> > >plug a bunch of devices into one outlet? And when you select one of the
> > >things you've got attached to it, it shows up in Windows Explorerr just
> > >the
> > >way my one and only thumb drive shows up now? Is that pretty much how 
> > >it
> > >works? It's a thing that plugs into that USB port and sits on the desk 
> > >in
> > >front of your computer and has a few slots in it for a few thumb 
> > >drives?
> > >
> > >At least I understand it isn't a gypsy lady who reads Tarot cards. 
> > >That's
> > >the only meaning I could think of, which is what such fortune tellers 
> > >are
> > >generally called. Card readers or Tarot card readers. That's Taroh, Mr.
> > >Jaws.
> > >
> > >Tator aseEpxloerrer Explroer as if deivce dvice back3eba----- Original
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> > >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> > >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:16 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > >
> > >
> > >A card reader is a small device that hooks up to your computer,
> > >usually via an USB connection, and accepts one or more flash storage
> > >cards, such as SD or compact flash, or memory sticks.  The card then
> > >appears to your computer as does another drive so you can move files
> > >to and from it.
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >At 06:50 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:
> > > >Stupid question of the day: what's a card reader?
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> > > >To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:05 PM
> > > >Subject: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I just bought a card reader and it came with a disc which included 
> > > >the
> > > >print
> > > >user's manual in PDF format.  I think this will happen more often 
> > > >which
> > > >will
> > > >make life just a little easier.
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