[gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Mon Apr 6 22:38:41 UTC 2009

Dave,

Thanks. That's perfectly sensible. fortunately, I'm just glad to know more 
than I did before this, but I don't need anything like that myself, so I'm 
safe for the moment anyway.
Joel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Well, I would say there are several answers here -- first, anything
extra drives up the cost of a device, and PC's are quite price
sensitive.  Secondly there are at least five or six types of memory
cards, memory sticks and such, which ones do you support?  Also they
come and go, to a certain extent, and every now and then a new one
comes along, or the standards for an old one are upgraded to support
more capacity, any of which may make something not work.  So, it is
cheaper and easier to leave their interface to third parties
developing devices you plug into a PC via a standard port.

Ports change too (smile,) but not as quickly.  Fifteen years ago we
had serial and parallel and they are little used these days.

Dave

At 06:29 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
>Dave,
>
>that sounds like such an obvious and practical feature for a personal
>computer. hard to believe that's not nearly universal. Interesting.
>or rfor
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 1:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
>
>
>Finally, Joel, some computers -- particularly laptops have built-in
>card readers that accept one or more types of cards.
>
>Dave
>
>At 03:18 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> >yeah, you're right. When I read an occaisonal review of a camera, or talk
> >to
> >a friend about something they did with their camera, I remember hearing
> >about jut plugging a cable into the USB port. Okay. So they don't all 
> >have
> >these multiple outlet gismos. I see.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:26 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> >
> >
> >They may have card readers, or those external devices, like cameras,
> >may have an USB connection that they can connect to their PC with a 
> >cable.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >At 09:51 AM 4/5/2009, you wrote:
> > >you must be talking about things I don't use except within the body of 
> > >my
> > >own computer, right? Like a memory stick from another computer, or the
> > >memory cards of various sorts that you stick into things like blind
> > >reading
> > >devices or digital cameras, stuff like that. Now am I geting it?  You
> > >mean
> > >all my normally sighted friends who have digital cameras all have some
> > >sort
> > >of card reader that comes with it and plugs into their USB port where
> > >I've
> > >got my thumb drive plugged in and sometimes take it out and plug in my
> > >mobile .mp3 player so I can copy a music file to it or copy an
> > >audible.com
> > >book from Audible Manager to it?
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> > >To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:05 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > >
> > >
> > >Not quite right.  This won't accept thumb drives.  It reads various 
> > >kinds
> > >of
> > >memory sticks and cards.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> > >On
> > >Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> > >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:31 AM
> > >To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > >
> > >Dave,
> > >
> > >Well, I have one thumb drive stuck into a front-side USB port all the
> > >time
> > >to which I copy various things I want to keep backed up from my hard
> > >drive.
> > >So if I'm understanding you, this is some sort of device that provides
> > >extra
> > >
> > >input slots for more such things, sort of the way a power strip lets 
> > >you
> > >plug a bunch of devices into one outlet? And when you select one of the
> > >things you've got attached to it, it shows up in Windows Explorerr just
> > >the
> > >way my one and only thumb drive shows up now? Is that pretty much how 
> > >it
> > >works? It's a thing that plugs into that USB port and sits on the desk 
> > >in
> > >front of your computer and has a few slots in it for a few thumb 
> > >drives?
> > >
> > >At least I understand it isn't a gypsy lady who reads Tarot cards. 
> > >That's
> > >the only meaning I could think of, which is what such fortune tellers 
> > >are
> > >generally called. Card readers or Tarot card readers. That's Taroh, Mr.
> > >Jaws.
> > >
> > >Tator aseEpxloerrer Explroer as if deivce dvice back3eba----- Original
> > >Message -----
> > >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> > >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:16 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > >
> > >
> > >A card reader is a small device that hooks up to your computer,
> > >usually via an USB connection, and accepts one or more flash storage
> > >cards, such as SD or compact flash, or memory sticks.  The card then
> > >appears to your computer as does another drive so you can move files
> > >to and from it.
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >At 06:50 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:
> > > >Stupid question of the day: what's a card reader?
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> > > >To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:05 PM
> > > >Subject: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I just bought a card reader and it came with a disc which included 
> > > >the
> > > >print
> > > >user's manual in PDF format.  I think this will happen more often 
> > > >which
> > > >will
> > > >make life just a little easier.
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