[Reader-users] books

Kevin Jones kevin at kevinrj.net
Mon May 19 15:48:17 CDT 2008 

the phone accepts a normal 3.5mm headphone plug and you can also use 
bluetooth.


Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E] wrote:
> David;
> Is there a headset with the phone so you can read in public.  If not, how can you read a flier at a meating?
> 
> Terry Powers
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Evans [mailto:drevans at bellsouth.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:51 AM
> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] books
> 
> 
> Dear Livio,
> 
> Jim has it right.  For scanning a book, the Reader, at this stage is not the best tool.
> It can certainly scan the pages of a book, but this will put a real phyiscal strain on your body to do it and it may not have the best navigation features  for reading a book.
> I do not have enough experience as yet to say how hard it will be to navigate the contents of a book that the Reader does scan, but I think that the product has room to grow in the future and perhaps features like this could be made more useful in future upgrades.
> What I find the reader useful for is when I walk in to a meeting and they place a bunch of papers down in front of me that I must read on the spot, the reader will now give me that ability.
> It will help me when I must travel out of town and read all kinds of information such as flight info, transportation info, hotel info, bills, signs and labels.
> It is a great tool and I look forward to using it extensively, but I have only had it four days now and I am still learning to use it.
> I just think that using a flat bed scanner and a OCR program is a much better method of scanning a book at this point.
> It is possible to read and scan most anything you want with the reader, but for a large bunch of scanning there are better tools.
> I am sure that KNFB is hard at work thinking up new features to make the Reader and even better tool for us to use such as a DAISY reader feature.
> 
> David Evans, NFBF
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] books
> 
> 
> Hello Livio,
> 
> I'm not David, but I will happily give my opinion anyway.
> 
> The KNFB reader mobile is not designed well for books.  it *can* do
> books, but it will not be anywhere near as smooth an experience as
> using a computer based solution like the K1000.
> 
> The two main reasons are that it takes a while to scan and read a
> page, and that its very hard to navigate.
> 
> By navigate, I mean moving from place to place within the book,
> searching for what you want to read, organizing chapters, finding a
> particular page, etc.
> 
> David's other point is that you have to hold your arm at an
> uncomfortable angle to take a picture of a page.  Doing that several
> hundred times to read an entire book will be very difficult.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:18:16AM -0500, Livio Novi Rodríguez wrote:
>> Dear David:
>>
>> I saw your last message and probably misunderstood your words.  So, Are 
>> you
>> saying that the KNFB is not good for books?  Please give me a better
>> explanation, because I am about to purchase my kNFB Reader Mobile (I read 
>> a
>> lot of books) , when the software is able to read Spanish.  Note that
>> although I speek and read English, I live and work in Mexico City, so
>> Spanish is my main language.
>>
>> Please, I wait for your reply the sooner you can, because I have heard 
>> great
>> things about the reader.  I can't wait to have mine!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Livio Novi.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] books
>>
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I don't believe that trying to take allot of pictures , very fast, will 
>>> be
>>> very practical as using a flat bed scanner.
>>> Your arm is going to get very tired trying to hold that unit still, at 
>>> the
>>> right distance, for the amount of time to get the job done.
>>> How are you going to turn the pages and everything and still keep from
>>> moving the KNFB reader.
>>> You would need some kind of stand for it.
>>>
>>> David Evans, NFBF
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] books
>>>
>>>
>>>> it would but as has been states the processing power in the phone is
>>>> not as fast as say the older classics. but if we suggest these
>>>> features, and user input is taken into account via the company then we
>>>> may see results
>>>>
>>>> On 16 May 2008, at 05:02, Kevin Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm still hoping they eventually include a batch shoot and a batch
>>>>> process mode. this would make scanning books more convenient.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dean Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>> I've never tried to read a whole book with it but on the pages I've
>>>>>> read it gives good results, also noticing that there are two pages
>>>>>> and reading it properly.  If you wanted it to go all the way from
>>>>>> left to right, top to bottom you can use bills and memos mode
>>>>>> instead.  I know you didn't ask that but thought it'd be good to
>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 20:15 13/05/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>> if it can scan menus i would suggest text books won't be hard.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:24 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Reader-users] books
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi does the reader scan textbooks reasonably well?
>>>>>>>> thanks, will
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