[Reader-users] books

Sat May 17 20:19:12 CDT 2008

Hello Jim and David:

Thank you very much for your kind answers.  In other words, You explained me 
that although the KNFB Mobile is not designed to read books, you can read 
them.

On the other hand, I especially agree when you told me that when taking a 
picture, the arm rests in an unconfortable possition.  I say this, because 
let me tell you that I was born with hydrocephalus, which besides my visual 
impairment, caused some muscular spasticity, and because of that, my arm 
might be more tired than the one of the average people after using the 
reader continuously for a long time.  Don't you think so?

So I might purchase the KNFB mobile and use it for reading mail, brochures 
and maybe sometimes books, when My scanner and computer are far from me. 
What I like of the KNFB Mobile, even though I've never had or used one, is 
its portability

Do you guys agree with me, or do you have a different suggestion?  Please 
tel me.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Livio Novi.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] books

Hello Livio,

I'm not David, but I will happily give my opinion anyway.

The KNFB reader mobile is not designed well for books.  it *can* do
books, but it will not be anywhere near as smooth an experience as
using a computer based solution like the K1000.

The two main reasons are that it takes a while to scan and read a
page, and that its very hard to navigate.

By navigate, I mean moving from place to place within the book,
searching for what you want to read, organizing chapters, finding a
particular page, etc.

David's other point is that you have to hold your arm at an
uncomfortable angle to take a picture of a page.  Doing that several
hundred times to read an entire book will be very difficult.

I hope this helps,

Jim

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:18:16AM -0500, Livio Novi Rodríguez wrote:
> Dear David:
>
> I saw your last message and probably misunderstood your words.  So, Are 
> you
> saying that the KNFB is not good for books?  Please give me a better
> explanation, because I am about to purchase my kNFB Reader Mobile (I read 
> a
> lot of books) , when the software is able to read Spanish.  Note that
> although I speek and read English, I live and work in Mexico City, so
> Spanish is my main language.
>
> Please, I wait for your reply the sooner you can, because I have heard 
> great
> things about the reader.  I can't wait to have mine!
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Livio Novi.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] books
>
>
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I don't believe that trying to take allot of pictures , very fast, will 
> > be
> > very practical as using a flat bed scanner.
> > Your arm is going to get very tired trying to hold that unit still, at 
> > the
> > right distance, for the amount of time to get the job done.
> > How are you going to turn the pages and everything and still keep from
> > moving the KNFB reader.
> > You would need some kind of stand for it.
> >
> > David Evans, NFBF
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
> > To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
> > <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-users] books
> >
> >
> >> it would but as has been states the processing power in the phone is
> >> not as fast as say the older classics. but if we suggest these
> >> features, and user input is taken into account via the company then we
> >> may see results
> >>
> >> On 16 May 2008, at 05:02, Kevin Jones wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm still hoping they eventually include a batch shoot and a batch
> >>> process mode. this would make scanning books more convenient.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dean Wilcox wrote:
> >>>> I've never tried to read a whole book with it but on the pages I've
> >>>> read it gives good results, also noticing that there are two pages
> >>>> and reading it properly.  If you wanted it to go all the way from
> >>>> left to right, top to bottom you can use bills and memos mode
> >>>> instead.  I know you didn't ask that but thought it'd be good to
> >>>> know.
> >>>>
> >>>> At 20:15 13/05/2008, you wrote:
> >>>>> if it can scan menus i would suggest text books won't be hard.
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
> >>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
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> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:24 PM
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> >>>>>> hi does the reader scan textbooks reasonably well?
> >>>>>> thanks, will
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