[Reader-users] trial

Sat May 17 04:06:37 CDT 2008

A vendor would certainly give you a  trial with the reader, and you could 
try the kinds of things you would like to read. They might not leave it with 
you, but I'm sure they would spend some time with you, so you would know how 
great it works.

Jan

Jan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ruby" <jim at blindsea.com>
To: "'Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list'" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] trial

> I'm in the states, and I would want a trail before I would spend this much
> money on a product. I'd want to be sure it will read some of the things I
> would like it to read for myself and to see if I can really justify the 
> very
> high cost per usage.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reader-users-bounces+jim=blindsea.com at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:reader-users-bounces+jim=blindsea.com at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Kevin
> Jones
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:57 PM
> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] trial
>
> If the authorization for the reader is simular to mobilespeak or talks I
> think a x day trial could be very plausible. I think they should do it.
> It could answer a lot of questions of, will it read this or that etc.
>
>
> will lomas wrote:
>> hi think a ten day trial may work. let's see what KNFB says. i note
>> that jim is on this list yet he hasn't said a single thing on the
>> trial issue
>> maybe it's a good idea and he is opposed to good ideas?
>> smiles
>> let's see anyways we cant say fairer than that
>>
>> On 15 May 2008, at 11:59, Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E] wrote:
>>
>>> If loans are so hard to come by in foreign countries, have any of you
>>> all outside the US thought of writing to Mark Mauer and see if there
>>> is
>>> any chance the loan program could be expanded to NFB members in other
>>> countries.  It can not do any harm and maybe he does not even know
>>> things are as bad as you all are saying.  Be sure you go at it with a
>>> positive additude.  Negativeness, like Will's will not get you
>>> anywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>> Working for the summer, volenteering three days a week in the winter,
>>> and a positive aditude got the job I have today.  I have held it for
>>> about 22 years and started out just doing phones, but now my list is
>>> about two feet or more long.
>>>
>>> Terry Powers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dean mills [mailto:dm3209 at vodafone.net]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:12 PM
>>> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] trial
>>>
>>> also the borrowing is only for US people.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Charlie Richardson" <charlieofalbany at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] trial
>>>
>>>
>>>> Foreign countries don't have banks or finance companies?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov>
>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] trial
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> All I can say is, write to Jim G. or KNFB as a group and describe
>>> your
>>>>> idea.  All they can do is bring it to their board and either say,
>>>>> yes
>>> or
>>>>> no!  If you already have the phone, I do not see how it could go
>>> wrong.
>>>>> They might want to limit it to foreign countrys who do not have good
>>>>> loan programs and tech support.  Good luck with the idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Terry Powers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: dean mills [mailto:dm3209 at vodafone.net]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:01 AM
>>>>> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] trial
>>>>>
>>>>> a lot of people in the UK get the n82 just for the phone:  the trial
>>>>> could work well for them users.  my ideas are:
>>>>> first you would start the aplication and then even get a tempoarry
>>> key
>>>>> like with talks even for 10 days.  what are poeples thoughts on
>>>>> this.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]"
>>>>> <powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov>
>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] trial
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Will;
>>>>>> Where is your logic?  To try this package, you would still need the
>>>>> N82.
>>>>>> Do you really think KNFB is going to let people take a delicate
>>> thing
>>>>>> like a cell phone out on tryal.  See if your area has a center that
>>>>>> displays equipment for handicapped like the NFB does in Baltimore.
>>> If
>>>>>> you can find one, you can go there and try out the phone and other
>>>>>> equipment, as often as you want, before making you mind up.  I
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> the other package you mentioned was for a computer, so the tryal
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> only the software, but you had to provide the computer.  Also you
>>>>>> could find a friend with a new reader.  Instead of complaining so
>>>>>> much, try to find solutions that meet your needs.  KNFB is not
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to change just for one person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Terry Powers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Charlie Richardson [mailto:charlieofalbany at hotmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:21 PM
>>>>>> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] trial
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First you talk about rights, now you talk about being forced.  You
>>>>>> have the right and probably should keep your money.  You are one
>>> over
>>>>>> the edge negative person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:44 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] trial
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can not a trial be made downloadable though?
>>>>>>> what is the technical difficulties with this? kurzweil dont expect
>>>>>>> you to shell out 1000 dollars for k1000 without trying it, so why
>>> are
>>>>>>> they giving us loads of marketing over the top hype, and forcing
>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>> to buy this product without trying it?
>>>>>>> that's worrying business to me, considering all other blindness
>>>>>>> related software companies as far as i know i.e. jaws, window
>>>>>>> eyes,
>>>>>>> hal, etc, at least let you try the products
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9 May 2008, at 16:40, Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is just the reason why I am holding off until convention.
>>>>>>>> There I
>>>>>>>> can try it out, all I want.  They even have a night session,
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> just vendors show their products.  This is how I got my original
>>>>>>>> reader
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> stand.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Terry Powers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: will lomas [mailto:lomaswilliam at googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:26 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Reader-users] trial
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can a trial of the KNFB reader please be made we can just pay ten
>>> or
>>>>>>>> twenty pounds or something for the pollerizers and then get a
>>> thirty
>>>>>>>> day demo how on earth can most of you state o i'll buy it based
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> loads of advertising hype on a website?
>>>>>>>> Surely as consumers we should be given the right to try the
>>> software
>>>>>>>> as you can with k1000?
>>>>>>>> just my thoughts
>>>>>>>>
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