[Reader-users] books

Sat May 17 00:29:00 CDT 2008

Hello Livio,

I'm not David, but I will happily give my opinion anyway.

The KNFB reader mobile is not designed well for books.  it *can* do
books, but it will not be anywhere near as smooth an experience as
using a computer based solution like the K1000.

The two main reasons are that it takes a while to scan and read a
page, and that its very hard to navigate.

By navigate, I mean moving from place to place within the book,
searching for what you want to read, organizing chapters, finding a
particular page, etc.

David's other point is that you have to hold your arm at an
uncomfortable angle to take a picture of a page.  Doing that several
hundred times to read an entire book will be very difficult.

I hope this helps,

Jim

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:18:16AM -0500, Livio Novi Rodríguez wrote:
> Dear David:
> 
> I saw your last message and probably misunderstood your words.  So, Are you 
> saying that the KNFB is not good for books?  Please give me a better 
> explanation, because I am about to purchase my kNFB Reader Mobile (I read a 
> lot of books) , when the software is able to read Spanish.  Note that 
> although I speek and read English, I live and work in Mexico City, so 
> Spanish is my main language.
> 
> Please, I wait for your reply the sooner you can, because I have heard great 
> things about the reader.  I can't wait to have mine!
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Livio Novi.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] books
> 
> 
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I don't believe that trying to take allot of pictures , very fast, will be
> > very practical as using a flat bed scanner.
> > Your arm is going to get very tired trying to hold that unit still, at the
> > right distance, for the amount of time to get the job done.
> > How are you going to turn the pages and everything and still keep from
> > moving the KNFB reader.
> > You would need some kind of stand for it.
> >
> > David Evans, NFBF
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
> > To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
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> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-users] books
> >
> >
> >> it would but as has been states the processing power in the phone is
> >> not as fast as say the older classics. but if we suggest these
> >> features, and user input is taken into account via the company then we
> >> may see results
> >>
> >> On 16 May 2008, at 05:02, Kevin Jones wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm still hoping they eventually include a batch shoot and a batch
> >>> process mode. this would make scanning books more convenient.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dean Wilcox wrote:
> >>>> I've never tried to read a whole book with it but on the pages I've
> >>>> read it gives good results, also noticing that there are two pages
> >>>> and reading it properly.  If you wanted it to go all the way from
> >>>> left to right, top to bottom you can use bills and memos mode
> >>>> instead.  I know you didn't ask that but thought it'd be good to
> >>>> know.
> >>>>
> >>>> At 20:15 13/05/2008, you wrote:
> >>>>> if it can scan menus i would suggest text books won't be hard.
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
> >>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
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> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:24 PM
> >>>>> Subject: [Reader-users] books
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>> hi does the reader scan textbooks reasonably well?
> >>>>>> thanks, will
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