[Reader-users] a bit of truth about the reader

[dean mills]

hi, hear are some comments from a clasic user of the reader.   they are 
truthful and tell us what sight and sound are really like.
Hi Dean,

Speaking as someone who owns the classic version, it is a waist of
time. Lets go through the deal:
1. For existing owners, send your reader back.
2. Pay 1000 pounds. Yes that includes talks and the phone but who
gives a shit? They have my original reader.
3. Looking at it, there's not much difference between the two systems,
they will bullshit because they want your money.
4. Jim is a waist of time. I tested the classic versions software for
him, no credits, thanks, nothing.
5. Sight and sound. Had more success teaching penguins to speak german
than dealing with them! All they know is JAWS. They've not once asked
how I am getting on with the product, not once! There a fucking joke
as well. I had to send my reader back because the camera refused to
take pictures. Ah well, back in a couple of days. No! Was it fuck! It
took 3 weeks. 3! James I think I know it all Everton accused me of
dropping the reader wich of course I didnn't.

6. More on KNFB reading technologies. They never even discussed the
future of the classic with us. Had mine 12 months and there's no
updates? Sense please? What? Braille note classics had updates for
quite some time.

7. Pricing. When I paid 2625 pounds I expected a small reduction in
price. 50 per cent though? Is that fucking normal? No rebates, no
offer of support to pay there original extortionate price.

I just want you to know that I aint at all happy with the companies
involved here. How sight and sound can be in with a company that
treats early adopters with a could care less about you attitude.

Finally, some positives. Given the fact that mobiles are smaller, you
may have difficulties. With the classic, I have had good success doing
things like boxes and crisp bags for fun. It works reasonably, but
light is a factor and you need to learn how to do it. Contrary to a
certain mister webster, it's not rocket, science. Anyone that tells
you that is lying. You need to learn about print, size, refractivity,
light deprovation, light sensativity vs picture distance, glair,
potential inversce square vs average degree of light colourisation for
wood and reflective materials remember science classes? Other things.
fonts, colours, degrees of font size, pictures, managing with text
within them, outside factors, colours of clothing, the surface, the
colour of the light within the focus area. See? Even with a physics
Ph.d its not easy. I forget though, this is James Jolley, who knows
fuck all!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <arobbin1 at nycap.rr.com>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] using the practicing sheet


> Never used it but will try later and let you know
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reader-users-bounces+arobbin1=nycap.rr.com at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:reader-users-bounces+arobbin1=nycap.rr.com at nfbnet.org]On Behalf
> Of John Heilbrunn
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:34 AM
> To: reader-users at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Reader-users] using the practicing sheet
>
>
> Hi.
> thought I wanted to improve my aimning skills and got the training sheet 
> out
> for some updating.
> Sometimes I got a perfect advice, but when I - according to the 
> indications)
> lowere the camera, at 10 inches with 2 inches, I got "not enough 
> indicators"
> or something like that.
> When i heard tha one should be a foot away, 16 inches, and get advice to
> lower the camera to 8 inches, it makes me wonder about the right
> positioning, especially when using the authorized and unambiguous training
> card.
> Do any of you have experience with the training card? Did you use it a lot
> to get your aiming skills up to par=?
> John
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