[Reader-users] just curious

Wed May 7 09:18:20 CDT 2008

Will, Why do you feel you have to change phones or software to a newer 
version, just because it might be newer.  Buy one, use it and enjoy it.  If 
another phone model comes out, don't worry about it...just be glad for what 
you have.

Cindy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] just curious

> hi but if it moves to more phones i guess what i trying to work out
> before i spend my money which you guys seem to have growing on a tree
> on the back porc so to speak, buy a new phone another one and another
> one and another one, where do you all get this money i wonder? is, yes
> it supports new phones but i hope at least for five ten years i can
> work the reader on the phone i ahve paid around 500 600 dollars fore
> not all of us want to get phone after phone after phone after phone
> just to keep a product upgraded that you paid 1600 dollars for in the
> first place
> it like k1000
> you don't have to keep upgrading to windows vista to keep it alive? i
> bet the next version will work with xp at least. i just don't want to
> buy the reader after making a heavy investment in this phone. true it
> is a great phone but i have brought it for a phone primarily not as a
> reader as most of you on this list seem to have done
> this is a top spec phone and i hope will be for a while. let's see if
> you all upgrade next year just to say you can i bet half of you won't.
> true if the reader supports my language needs for french as well as
> english i won't need to upgrade, but given how my friends of the
> classic have been ripped off so quickly firstly by the price dropping
> 1000 dollars or more even after purchase, and then saying oh you are
> getting no more support see you later, no upgrades, nothing i hope
> that this mobile reader, as good as it sounds doesn't flop in six
> months and they've ran off with your money
>
> On 7 May 2008, at 00:43, Loren Wakefield wrote:
>
>> I for one, hope it does.  NOt for the same reason you do though.  I
>> hope it
>> moves to more and more phones, because, it means, we in the
>> blindness area,
>> and the rest of the world are advancing in the available technology.
>>
>> I have to wonder if this hatred of advancing tech was around when we
>> went
>> from the braille writer from the slate?  They are both good devices,
>> and
>> they both have their place.  And you could and still can use the
>> slate even
>> though the writer is now around.  Or how about when the optacon was
>> replaced
>> by an affordable program that ran on a scanner and pc?  The optacon
>> is still
>> a useful device and one can still read with it.  (By the way, even
>> if they
>> were still being made, I would not be able to afford the optacon.)
>>
>> I do not know if I will try and buy the mobile reader that's on a
>> phone.
>> But I am very glad to know that it is out there.  I cannot wait for
>> the next
>> advancement.  I guess that's the problem with having hope that
>> things are
>> getting better.  So whatever the next advancement is, I cannot wait
>> to see
>> it.  To me the only down side we be reading on this and other lists
>> how
>> horrible people are for bringing more innovation to our lives.
>>
>>
>> Loren Wakefield
>>
>> "The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr. Forress C.
>> Shaklee
>>
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>>
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] just curious
>>
>>
>>> hi ok guys on your heads be it. i am only trying to warn you guys
>>> that
>>> in the next year or two i guarantie you'll all have to keep buying
>>> new
>>> phones again and again and again and again.
>>> If i am wrong and someone from KNFB proves me wrong then we shall
>>> see.
>>> if in a year or two it still works on the n eighty two i may just may
>>> with a capital M, consider the software. i will stay quiet in the
>>> background now and watch developments but i hope for all of you guys
>>> who have brought this phone for the reader, that it is going to last
>>> you for more than  a year. i bet michael and others next year it'll
>>> be
>>> i told you so so i can't wait for that day to wipe the smug smiles
>>> off
>>> your damn faces.
>>>
>>> you all know i am right so i suggest you all start robbing the banks
>>> to afford the next upgrade as it is going to happen guys i can
>>> guarantie it.
>>> don't say i didn't warn you. jim and crew will tell you guys any shit
>>> to make you upgrade but i tell you something guys i do feel so sorry
>>> for you lot. i am buying the phone for a phone primarily. yes, i do
>>> want a reader but i can see this coming that it won't work on the
>>> phone in a yer or twos time.
>>> On 6 May 2008, at 22:11, Michael Torrez wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dude,
>>>> If you don't like the facts about this situation, then don't bother
>>>> with it.
>>>> Other whise, you should just buy one already, then you will quit
>>>> complaining, because you will then relise, that the reader, moble,
>>>> it makes
>>>> life great! Because of all the small things you never could find out
>>>> on your
>>>> own, with out asking some one with sight, to read it to you. Like a
>>>> certain
>>>> brand of one of your favorite product, or something along that line.
>>>> You will never know how great the reader moble is, untel you buy
>>>> one, so
>>>> either do it, or don't, and if you choose not to, then please, do
>>>> not try to
>>>> bring it down, buy constantly complaining about every little thing
>>>> you don't
>>>> like about it, especially if you don't even own one.
>>>>    Michael
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] just curious
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hi ok but if we have to get new phones every six months or so why
>>>>> are
>>>>> we paying an rediculous price for the software in the first place,
>>>>> if,
>>>>> say we have to keep getting new versions and phones for yet more
>>>>> money
>>>>> i'll watch the technology first before i buy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 May 2008, at 20:12, Robert Carter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody has to buy anything. If, however, you want to keep up with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> latest advances, there will always be something new to buy. That
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> just how it works and there is no way that software and hardware
>>>>>> development is going to slow down. I always think of the price
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>> pay for technology as more like a rental fee for the right to use
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> technology until the next thing comes along.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 01:58 PM 5/6/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>> hi oh i not complaining about it guys far from it, just want to
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> sure that if i purchase this reader for the phone in the future
>>>>>>> that i
>>>>>>> won't have to keep buying phone after phone and phone after phone
>>>>>>> lol,
>>>>>>> to keep upgraded
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6 May 2008, at 19:37, Glenn Crosby wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great response Gary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as I know, KNFB Reading Technology is still supporting
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Reader
>>>>>>>> Classic, and I feel certain that will be the case with the
>>>>>>>> Reader
>>>>>>>> Mobile,
>>>>>>>> and no one is forced to upgrade. If the current model works for
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> may be no real reason to upgrade. I own a business, and I own a
>>>>>>>> computer. I
>>>>>>>> run several pieces of software that have worked for me for
>>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>> They do
>>>>>>>> what I need to do, so I don't bother upgrading every time the
>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>> manufacturers deliver a new version of my software to market.
>>>>>>>> Sometime a new
>>>>>>>> feature makes me want to upgrade, and I do so by my own choice.
>>>>>>>> Most
>>>>>>>> times I
>>>>>>>> don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Each of us has the same freedom with the KNFB Reader. I didn't
>>>>>>>> buy
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> classic, but I coudn't wait to buy the new Reader Mobile. I am
>>>>>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>> upgrade at some point, but it will be on my timetable. That's
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>> thing about free will. We can all exercise it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Glenn Crosby
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Gary Wunder
>>>>>>>> <gwunder at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is for life? For technology it is less than a pair of
>>>>>>>>> shoes.
>>>>>>>>> If the
>>>>>>>>> Reader is to continue, it must adapt to whatever technology
>>>>>>>>> comes.
>>>>>>>>> When it
>>>>>>>>> adapts, it is criticized by those of us who have an older unit.
>>>>>>>>> If it
>>>>>>>>> doesn't, we cry out and ask why we are being made to accept
>>>>>>>>> substandard
>>>>>>>>> hardware and features in software which new hardware could
>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Strange world!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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