[Reader-users] just curious

Wed May 7 00:32:18 CDT 2008

I love my classic reader, and I have no plans  to upgrade to the mobil 
reader.  Perhaps, I will some day, but why would I do it as long as  the 
classic does all that I want it to do.  I lived for years with  nothing 
comparable, so I'm delighted.  About a month ago, I had a very serious 
problem with my classic reader, and  I had no trouble getting  all the 
service that I needed. there was no indication  that I should give up on the 
Classic  and buy the new Mobil reader.  J.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] just curious


> hi but if it moves to more phones i guess what i trying to work out
> before i spend my money which you guys seem to have growing on a tree
> on the back porc so to speak, buy a new phone another one and another
> one and another one, where do you all get this money i wonder? is, yes
> it supports new phones but i hope at least for five ten years i can
> work the reader on the phone i ahve paid around 500 600 dollars fore
> not all of us want to get phone after phone after phone after phone
> just to keep a product upgraded that you paid 1600 dollars for in the
> first place
> it like k1000
> you don't have to keep upgrading to windows vista to keep it alive? i
> bet the next version will work with xp at least. i just don't want to
> buy the reader after making a heavy investment in this phone. true it
> is a great phone but i have brought it for a phone primarily not as a
> reader as most of you on this list seem to have done
> this is a top spec phone and i hope will be for a while. let's see if
> you all upgrade next year just to say you can i bet half of you won't.
> true if the reader supports my language needs for french as well as
> english i won't need to upgrade, but given how my friends of the
> classic have been ripped off so quickly firstly by the price dropping
> 1000 dollars or more even after purchase, and then saying oh you are
> getting no more support see you later, no upgrades, nothing i hope
> that this mobile reader, as good as it sounds doesn't flop in six
> months and they've ran off with your money
>
> On 7 May 2008, at 00:43, Loren Wakefield wrote:
>
>> I for one, hope it does.  NOt for the same reason you do though.  I
>> hope it
>> moves to more and more phones, because, it means, we in the
>> blindness area,
>> and the rest of the world are advancing in the available technology.
>>
>> I have to wonder if this hatred of advancing tech was around when we
>> went
>> from the braille writer from the slate?  They are both good devices,
>> and
>> they both have their place.  And you could and still can use the
>> slate even
>> though the writer is now around.  Or how about when the optacon was
>> replaced
>> by an affordable program that ran on a scanner and pc?  The optacon
>> is still
>> a useful device and one can still read with it.  (By the way, even
>> if they
>> were still being made, I would not be able to afford the optacon.)
>>
>> I do not know if I will try and buy the mobile reader that's on a
>> phone.
>> But I am very glad to know that it is out there.  I cannot wait for
>> the next
>> advancement.  I guess that's the problem with having hope that
>> things are
>> getting better.  So whatever the next advancement is, I cannot wait
>> to see
>> it.  To me the only down side we be reading on this and other lists
>> how
>> horrible people are for bringing more innovation to our lives.
>>
>>
>> Loren Wakefield
>>
>> "The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr. Forress C.
>> Shaklee
>>
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>>
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] just curious
>>
>>
>>> hi ok guys on your heads be it. i am only trying to warn you guys
>>> that
>>> in the next year or two i guarantie you'll all have to keep buying
>>> new
>>> phones again and again and again and again.
>>> If i am wrong and someone from KNFB proves me wrong then we shall
>>> see.
>>> if in a year or two it still works on the n eighty two i may just may
>>> with a capital M, consider the software. i will stay quiet in the
>>> background now and watch developments but i hope for all of you guys
>>> who have brought this phone for the reader, that it is going to last
>>> you for more than  a year. i bet michael and others next year it'll
>>> be
>>> i told you so so i can't wait for that day to wipe the smug smiles
>>> off
>>> your damn faces.
>>>
>>> you all know i am right so i suggest you all start robbing the banks
>>> to afford the next upgrade as it is going to happen guys i can
>>> guarantie it.
>>> don't say i didn't warn you. jim and crew will tell you guys any shit
>>> to make you upgrade but i tell you something guys i do feel so sorry
>>> for you lot. i am buying the phone for a phone primarily. yes, i do
>>> want a reader but i can see this coming that it won't work on the
>>> phone in a yer or twos time.
>>> On 6 May 2008, at 22:11, Michael Torrez wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dude,
>>>> If you don't like the facts about this situation, then don't bother
>>>> with it.
>>>> Other whise, you should just buy one already, then you will quit
>>>> complaining, because you will then relise, that the reader, moble,
>>>> it makes
>>>> life great! Because of all the small things you never could find out
>>>> on your
>>>> own, with out asking some one with sight, to read it to you. Like a
>>>> certain
>>>> brand of one of your favorite product, or something along that line.
>>>> You will never know how great the reader moble is, untel you buy
>>>> one, so
>>>> either do it, or don't, and if you choose not to, then please, do
>>>> not try to
>>>> bring it down, buy constantly complaining about every little thing
>>>> you don't
>>>> like about it, especially if you don't even own one.
>>>>    Michael
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "will lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] just curious
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hi ok but if we have to get new phones every six months or so why
>>>>> are
>>>>> we paying an rediculous price for the software in the first place,
>>>>> if,
>>>>> say we have to keep getting new versions and phones for yet more
>>>>> money
>>>>> i'll watch the technology first before i buy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 May 2008, at 20:12, Robert Carter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody has to buy anything. If, however, you want to keep up with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> latest advances, there will always be something new to buy. That
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> just how it works and there is no way that software and hardware
>>>>>> development is going to slow down. I always think of the price
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>> pay for technology as more like a rental fee for the right to use
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> technology until the next thing comes along.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 01:58 PM 5/6/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>> hi oh i not complaining about it guys far from it, just want to
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> sure that if i purchase this reader for the phone in the future
>>>>>>> that i
>>>>>>> won't have to keep buying phone after phone and phone after phone
>>>>>>> lol,
>>>>>>> to keep upgraded
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6 May 2008, at 19:37, Glenn Crosby wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great response Gary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as I know, KNFB Reading Technology is still supporting
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Reader
>>>>>>>> Classic, and I feel certain that will be the case with the
>>>>>>>> Reader
>>>>>>>> Mobile,
>>>>>>>> and no one is forced to upgrade. If the current model works for
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> may be no real reason to upgrade. I own a business, and I own a
>>>>>>>> computer. I
>>>>>>>> run several pieces of software that have worked for me for
>>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>> They do
>>>>>>>> what I need to do, so I don't bother upgrading every time the
>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>> manufacturers deliver a new version of my software to market.
>>>>>>>> Sometime a new
>>>>>>>> feature makes me want to upgrade, and I do so by my own choice.
>>>>>>>> Most
>>>>>>>> times I
>>>>>>>> don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Each of us has the same freedom with the KNFB Reader. I didn't
>>>>>>>> buy
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> classic, but I coudn't wait to buy the new Reader Mobile. I am
>>>>>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>> upgrade at some point, but it will be on my timetable. That's
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>> thing about free will. We can all exercise it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Glenn Crosby
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Gary Wunder
>>>>>>>> <gwunder at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is for life? For technology it is less than a pair of
>>>>>>>>> shoes.
>>>>>>>>> If the
>>>>>>>>> Reader is to continue, it must adapt to whatever technology
>>>>>>>>> comes.
>>>>>>>>> When it
>>>>>>>>> adapts, it is criticized by those of us who have an older unit.
>>>>>>>>> If it
>>>>>>>>> doesn't, we cry out and ask why we are being made to accept
>>>>>>>>> substandard
>>>>>>>>> hardware and features in software which new hardware could
>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Strange world!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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