[Reader-users] Are there any updates due for the standard reader?

David B Andrews David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us
Thu Jan 31 14:56:24 CST 2008 

No one is singling out blind people.  All technology has a
relatively short life.  That is how the world works today.  
 
So it is either have more advancement and evolution and less
lifespan, or have more stability and lifespan with less evolution. 
It is the former, and there aren't enough blind people to change
that.  We also benefit, the first reading machine was the size of a
washing machine, and cost over $60,000 and wasn't that good to
boot.
 
Now look what we have.  Unfortunately, nothing stands still, and it
has nothing to do with blindness!
 
Dave
 
 
 
David Andrews
Chief Technology Officer
Minnesota State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave. W., #240
St. Paul, MN  55114-1840
(651) 642-0513  Office
(612) 730-7931  Cell
(651) 649-5927  Fax


>>> james.jolley at homecall.co.uk 1/31/2008 1:06 PM >>>

Yes, but what about those of us who have bought our readers with
our  
own cash and not had the thing a year? I've already had to return
mine  
because the camera died on it. What happens if that occurs again?

Sorry, but I am getting rather sick of this idea that blind people 

have to jump all the time. I suspect also that there will be little
 
point in me sticking around on this list if the current unit is  
entirely changed to a mobile device. Personally, I wouldn't buy a 

mobile just for a reader, a standalone device like it is now was  
perfectly fine.

Best

-James-
On 31 Jan 2008, at 18:52, Loren Wakefield wrote:

> It's the way it is unfortunately.  It use to be that a one gig  
> harddrive
> cost over $2000  and now I am setting at a computer that cost
less  
> than that
> and has 160 times as much room.  The thing with that is it is
almost  
> three
> years old and is pretty much out-of-date.  But for now, it does
what  
> I need
> it to do, and that counts for a lot.  My reader may be
out-of-date,  
> but it
> will still do most of what I want it to do.  And boy, would I
have  
> given
> alot to have something like it in college.  I will still use it,
but  
> I still
> will hate the idea that it is out-of-date just as much.
> Loren Wakefield
>
> "The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr.
Forress C.
> Shaklee
>
> www.ultimatehealthwithtlc.com 
>
> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Are there any updates due for the
standard
> reader?
>
>
>> This is what I get for being an "early adapter", I guess.  I
paid a  
>> lot,
>> and I get to pay more, if I want to stay up-to-date.  I paid
nearly  
>> $3000
>> for something that's already out of date.  It brings me down,
way  
>> down.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> part of the problem beyond that the reader software has pretty
much
>>> maxed out the hardware, is 1 Fujitsu has completely stopped
making
>>> pocket pcs. 2 pocket pcs don't have usb host which is what is 

>>> needed to
>>> use an external camera. The mobile market basically goes
through a
>>> generation every 18 months. The industry is all going towards
>>> convergence which means everything all in one device. I think
in  
>>> the end
>>> moving to the cellphone platform will clearly be for the
better.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>> Are you saying that, if we want to continue to get
improvements in
>>>> scanning accuracy, we have to change to the cell phone model?
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi James:
>>>>>
>>>>> We haven't reached any conclusions about future upgrades for
the  
>>>>> KNFB
>>>>> Reader
>>>>> Classic.  The problem we have been facing is that there is
only  
>>>>> so much
>>>>> more
>>>>> we actually can do with that hardware.  We are probably
pretty  
>>>>> much
>>>>> maxed
>>>>> out.  That doesn't mean we won't have an upgrade, but I just 

>>>>> can't say
>>>>> for
>>>>> sure or when.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, J. G.
>>>>> *************
>>>>> James Gashel
>>>>> Vice President of Business Development
>>>>> K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc.
>>>>> telephone (443) 854-0854
>>>>> toll free (866) 836-9988
>>>>> fax (781) 263-9999
>>>>> jim at knfbreader.com 
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>> [mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James
Jolley
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:49 AM
>>>>> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user
list
>>>>> Subject: [Reader-users] Are there any updates due for the
standard
>>>>> reader?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know we're all going mad over this new mobile reader thing
but  
>>>>> are
>>>>> we going to see any updates for the standard units? Anything
been
>>>>> demoed or what?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> -James-
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No one is singling out blind people.? All technology has a relatively short life.? That is how the world works today.?
?
So it is either have more advancement and evolution and less lifespan, or have more stability and lifespan with less evolution.? It is the former, and there aren't enough blind people to change that.? We also benefit, the first reading machine was the size of a washing machine, and cost over $60,000 and wasn't that good to boot.
?
Now look what we have.? Unfortunately, nothing stands still, and it has nothing to do with blindness!
?
Dave
?
?
?
David Andrews
Chief Technology Officer
Minnesota State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave. W., #240
St. Paul, MN? 55114-1840
(651) 642-0513? Office
(612) 730-7931? Cell
(651) 649-5927? Fax
>>> james.jolley at homecall.co.uk 1/31/2008 1:06 PM >>>
Yes, but what about those of us who have bought our readers with our?
own cash and not had the thing a year? I've already had to return mine?
because the camera died on it. What happens if that occurs again?
Sorry, but I am getting rather sick of this idea that blind people?
have to jump all the time. I suspect also that there will be little?
point in me sticking around on this list if the current unit is?
entirely changed to a mobile device. Personally, I wouldn't buy a?
mobile just for a reader, a standalone device like it is now was?
perfectly fine.
Best
-James-
On 31 Jan 2008, at 18:52, Loren Wakefield wrote:
> It's the way it is unfortunately.? It use to be that a one gig?
> harddrive
> cost over $2000? and now I am setting at a computer that cost less?
> than that
> and has 160 times as much room.? The thing with that is it is almost?
> three
> years old and is pretty much out-of-date.? But for now, it does what?
> I need
> it to do, and that counts for a lot.? My reader may be out-of-date,?
> but it
> will still do most of what I want it to do.? And boy, would I have?
> given
> alot to have something like it in college.? I will still use it, but?
> I still
> will hate the idea that it is out-of-date just as much.
> Loren Wakefield
>
> "The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr. Forress C.
> Shaklee
>
> http://www.ultimatehealthwithtlc.com www.ultimatehealthwithtlc.com
>
> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Are there any updates due for the standard
> reader?
>
>
>> This is what I get for being an "early adapter", I guess.? I paid a?
>> lot,
>> and I get to pay more, if I want to stay up-to-date.? I paid nearly?
>> $3000
>> for something that's already out of date.? It brings me down, way?
>> down.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> part of the problem beyond that the reader software has pretty much
>>> maxed out the hardware, is 1 Fujitsu has completely stopped making
>>> pocket pcs. 2 pocket pcs don't have usb host which is what is?
>>> needed to
>>> use an external camera. The mobile market basically goes through a
>>> generation every 18 months. The industry is all going towards
>>> convergence which means everything all in one device. I think in?
>>> the end
>>> moving to the cellphone platform will clearly be for the better.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>> Are you saying that, if we want to continue to get improvements in
>>>> scanning accuracy, we have to change to the cell phone model?
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi James:
>>>>>
>>>>> We haven't reached any conclusions about future upgrades for the?
>>>>> KNFB
>>>>> Reader
>>>>> Classic.? The problem we have been facing is that there is only?
>>>>> so much
>>>>> more
>>>>> we actually can do with that hardware.? We are probably pretty?
>>>>> much
>>>>> maxed
>>>>> out.? That doesn't mean we won't have an upgrade, but I just?
>>>>> can't say
>>>>> for
>>>>> sure or when.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, J. G.
>>>>> *************
>>>>> James Gashel
>>>>> Vice President of Business Development
>>>>> K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc.
>>>>> telephone (443) 854-0854
>>>>> toll free (866) 836-9988
>>>>> fax (781) 263-9999
>>>>> jim at knfbreader.com
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [ mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of James Jolley
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:49 AM
>>>>> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
>>>>> Subject: [Reader-users] Are there any updates due for the standard
>>>>> reader?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know we're all going mad over this new mobile reader thing but?
>>>>> are
>>>>> we going to see any updates for the standard units? Anything been
>>>>> demoed or what?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> -James-
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Reader-users mailing list
>>>>> Reader-users at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/reader-users http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/reader-users
>>>>>
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