[Reader-users] i dont get it

Alco Canfield amcanfield at comcast.net
Mon Feb 4 22:33:14 CST 2008 

AMEN!  And double it!

Alco 

-----Original Message-----
From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob Monitor
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:10 PM
To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] i dont get it

enough you guys that this stuff off list we are getting tired of all your
whiny crying...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] i dont get it


>I have never heard of any ten year law.  While I felt sympathetic to 
>your original message, you're loosing me.  In this  message, you are 
>blaming them for the fact that there might not be spare  parts.  That 
>is going to be the nature of using  commercially available equipment in 
>an arena where things change very  quickly.  The advantage was 
>significantly lower  prices and faster delivery times.  My guess is 
>that they will do better at  getting spare parts than you might think, 
>though.
>
> This list was intended for users to help one another with various 
> aspects of the reader.  I would suggest that you decide what you feel 
> is fair and contact the company directly and see if anything can be 
> worked out.  It sounds to me, though, as if you feel you are entitled 
> to either a free upgrade or money back because the price dropped.  
> That just doesn't seem reasonable.
>
> Steve Jacobson
> Assistant List Administrator
>
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:56:19 +0000, James Jolley wrote:
>
>>Yes, nice. What the law says over there might not be the same here.
>>Also, remember, the parts need to be available as well so either way 
>>we are still screwed but I forgot, I am supposedly complaining.
>
>
>>On 5 Feb 2008, at 00:44, David Evans wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I believe the the law requires them to support the units for at 
>>> least 10 years after stop of production.
>>> Why all of this chicken little stuff?  The sky isn't falling?
>>> Your units are still just as good and useful as they were before the 
>>> new Mobile was announced.
>>> Enjoy them.
>>>
>>> David Evans, NFBF
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kimberly Morrow, PhD." <morrowmediakc at yahoo.com>
>>> To: <carcione at access.net>
>>> Cc: <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] i dont get it
>>>
>>>
>>>> The main thing I want to know is: If my KNFB Reader Classic ever 
>>>> needs repaired, will repairs be  supported? Will upgrades continue 
>>>> to be available for the Classic. Not all of us will want to 
>>>> purchase this new cell phone reader. Phones are her today, gone 
>>>> tomorrow. When I got my Reader, I presumed that, like many of the 
>>>> other scanning products on the market, it would be updated for a 
>>>> period of time and then after seven years or so, would gradually be 
>>>> phased out. I was very impressed with the upgrades KNFB had 
>>>> available for the Reader Classic, and it was my hope (and my 
>>>> understanding) that those upgrades would continue. Some of us 
>>>> prefer this Reader over the cell phone. So now what?
>>>>
>>>> Kimberly in KC
>>>>
>>>> Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>>> This is not my experience.  Some people can get someone else to 
>>>>> buy access equipment, and some people can't.  My employer bought 
>>>>> the braille display I have at work.  I bought the one I have at 
>>>>> home.  I bought my KNFB reader.  Plenty of other people I know 
>>>>> also bought their readers themselves, getting the money together 
>>>>> one way or another.
>>>>> But I'm with the guy who started this tread.  How can a cell phone 
>>>>> be better stronger faster than a PDA?  The PDA's not that old.  It 
>>>>> doesn't make sense to me.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> I think it is a good deal easier for americans to obtain equipment.
>>>>>> There access for employers and so on is a good deal better than 
>>>>>> here in the UK. If your blind over there you get braille displays 
>>>>>> just because you sort of want them. Over here we have to justify, 
>>>>>> justify, justify etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -James-
>>>>>> On 4 Feb 2008, at 12:33, Keith and Tracy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you are mistaken about the  funding aspect.  The deaf 
>>>>>>> has closed captioning on TV shows and movies, which is madated 
>>>>>>> by the feds.
>>>>>>> The tv and
>>>>>>> movie studeios have lobbyists up the wazoo, telling congress 
>>>>>>> that they don't want to fund Descriptive video for shoes and 
>>>>>>> movies.  If you are talking aobut Lion's clubs, even Iraq has 
>>>>>>> Lion's clubs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "william lomas" <lomaswilliam at googlemail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:28 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Reader-users] i dont get it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how have they maxed out the hardware of that PDA for the 
>>>>>>>> classic it is ten times faster than an average mobile phone is 
>>>>>>>> much much much faster, and no one is going to fund you buying a 
>>>>>>>> phone to have OCR on it if you want it for a job you guys are 
>>>>>>>> all blinded by technology it hillarious so what it is a mboile 
>>>>>>>> phone? big deal, 90 percent of us here already own them you'll 
>>>>>>>> ahve to buy a new phone? oh it ok as you US guys get everything 
>>>>>>>> phones, funding for this, funding for that, we get nothing here 
>>>>>>>> in the UK i feel so sorry for those people who brought the 
>>>>>>>> classic for example, were told it would work in their langauge 
>>>>>>>> i.e to read spanish french german, and are now told thanks for 
>>>>>>>> your money but we are scrweing you over, buy out new product 
>>>>>>>> now to get what you should have had int he old one it pathetic
>>>>>>>>
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