[Reader-users] File Conversion Application Specs (wasquestion about knfb reader files)

Sat Feb 2 01:42:35 CST 2008

What you say makes sense, and will maybe ask Jamal through the 
blind-programming mailing lists what the chances are.

Also, in the old days, I know there was at least one small utility app that 
would sort of try to scan/work out the structure of an XML document by 
scanning some instances thereof since in most cases, the structure should be 
represented even if there isn't too much content.  Will see if I can find 
one of those old apps since it's been a while since I actually did too much 
with XML itsself as opposed to just using the programming interface to 
'read' it.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Meredith" <cmered at microsoft.com>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] File Conversion Application Specs (wasquestion 
about knfb reader files)

> In the case of Jamal's utility, it would depend how easy he's made it to 
> add plugins for file conversion--which would be an issue he owns.
> Also, how easy would it be to obtain the XML schema for KNFB Reader files? 
> I could probably hack something together by cracking a file open and 
> browsing it, but if the schema would be readily available, it would make 
> things heaps easier.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:29 AM
> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] File Conversion Application Specs (was 
> question about knfb reader files)
>
> All sounds pretty much perfect since I would in any case be using the
> computer to be loading the files onto the memory card anyway, and what it
> really comes down to is being able to 'split' the files into
> pages/paragraphs etc. since if I remember correctly, in a standard text 
> file
> you already have sentence navigation (presumably based on full stops or
> something), but, like I said, would be nice to do something like read page
> by page, and also use them for navigation.
>
> One other thing you could also look into though is that instead of using 
> MS
> Word which some people wouldn't necessarily have on their machines, you
> could use something free like Jamal Masry's TextPal since it already has
> built in functionality for converting things like PDF files, HTML files 
> etc.
> etc. into forms of structured text files, but anyway...
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Meredith" <cmered at microsoft.com>
> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:11 PM
> Subject: [Reader-users] File Conversion Application Specs (was question
> about knfb reader files)
>
>
>> Jacob,
>>
>> 1. How much would you object to the restructuring having to be done on 
>> the
>> PC?  For the mobile model, it would be extremely possible to have this as
>> an application that runs on the phone, but given how *MUCH* of the 
>> classic
>> unit is taken over by the KNFB Reader application, I can't see a feasible
>> way for a third party to write such an add-in.
>> 2. How much structure would you want created in the KNFB Reader output
>> file?  I'm thinking that, for instance, converting from a text file would
>> have hard returns treated as new paragraph boundaries, and pages broken
>> at, say, 54 lines (could be configurable), whilst adding this as a "save
>> as" file type in Word (I *THINK* that's doable) would allow as much
>> transfer of formatting information as existed in both the KNFB Reader
>> application and Word.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:51 AM
>> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] question about knfb reader files
>>
>> Along these lines I still want to know if it's at all possible to 
>> generate
>> Reader documents from other types like text files, docs etc. etc. since 
>> it
>> would still be nice to be able to put other eBooks onto it, but with some
>> form of structure since when I just put text file versions of eBooks on I
>> have to first split them into chunks in order to 'navigate' through their
>> structure etc. since around the only thing the reader actually does do is
>> 'remember' exactly where in a file you were.
>>
>> Stay well
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dora cozzolino" <doracozz at surewest.net>
>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] question about knfb reader files
>>
>>
>>> Mike:
>>>
>>> I'm glad to know that! Thank you!
>>>
>>> Dora
>>> At 07:46 PM 1/31/08 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>It should be able to read files from the Reader's Text Files directory.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>   From: dora cozzolino
>>>>   To: reader-users at nfbnet.org
>>>>   Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:28 PM
>>>>   Subject: [Reader-users] question about knfb reader files
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Hi All!
>>>>
>>>>   I am thinking of getting a Victor Reader Stream and I'd like to know
>>>>if it
>>>>   is possible for it to read the files that the knfb reader produces? 
>>>> If
>>>>so,
>>>>   that would be great! I would like to take a piece of equipment with 
>>>> me
>>>>when
>>>>   I travel that would be easier for me to replace should it be stolen.
>>>>   Thanks in advance!
>>>>
>>>>   Dora
>>>>
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