[Reader-users] Is it really necessary to haveportraitorrientation?

Tue Jun 5 22:13:46 CDT 2007

With respect, that is not quite right. "Portrait" and "Landscape" 
orientation have the same meanings they do for printing documents: 
portrait orientation means that the document is oriented so that you 
would just read it normally -- top-to-bottom, left-to-right. Landscape 
orientation means that the document is oriented sideways. The Reader can 
handle it either way as the image is oriented properly for processing by 
the internal Reader software.

Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Jolley
  To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to 
haveportraitorrientation?

  Hi,

  Portrait orrientation just means that it can see all four edges of the
  document. It will either say portrait or landscape orrientation.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov>
  To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
  <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have
  portraitorrientation?

  > Hi Jim;
  > Can you define portrait orientation?  I understand the other one 
that
  > tells you about whether it sees the edges of the document.
  > Thanks.
  > Terry Powers
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: James Gashel [mailto:jim at knfbreader.com]
  > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:35 PM
  > To: 'Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list'
  > Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have portrait
  > orrientation?
  >
  > Hi James:
  >
  > It is not necessary to obtain portrait orientation or even to use 
the
  > field
  > of view report.  However, if there are times when I don't get the
  > quality I
  > am looking for, I may check my alignment before I take the picture
  > again.
  >
  > If you don't have portrait orientation, it is possible that some of 
the
  > print on the missing edge will be cut off.  In that event, the 
Reader
  > may
  > just omit reading you quite a bit of text.  The Reader does not try 
to
  > read
  > you partial words.  So, if some letters are cut off on the left side 
of
  > the
  > page, the Reader may end up skipping the entire line.
  >
  > Obviously, if the Reader reports not seeing the left edge, that 
doesn't
  > necessarily mean that any of the text is cut off.  The Reader is
  > reporting
  > if the edge of the page is seen, not if the left edge of the words 
is
  > seen.
  > Therefore, it may be that some but not all of the margin is seen.
  >
  > Hope this helps.
  >
  > Thanks, J. G.
  >
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org
  > [mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Jolley
  > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:43 PM
  > To: reader-users at nfbnet.org
  > Subject: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have portrait
  > orrientation?
  >
  > Hi Jim and folks,
  >
  > I noted that Jim mentioned in one of his messages that he often gets
  > portrait orrientation. I can't seem to get that all that much, but 
still
  > get
  > good results if the field of view says something to the effect of, 
"Top,
  > bottom and right edges are visible, 60 percent filled".
  >
  > It seems to always work then. If it gives me something different 
like
  > "top
  > right and bottom edges are visible" I just move accross a bit to the
  > left
  > and see what comes of it. To be honest, I never really use the field 
of
  > view
  > to get it perfect, If it get 50 percent or more in, then alls fair.
  >
  > Is that just me or are many users the same?
  >
  > Best
  >
  > -James-
  >
  >
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With respect, that is not quite right. "Portrait" and "Landscape" orientation have the same meanings they do for printing documents: portrait orientation means that the document is oriented so that you would just read it normally -- top-to-bottom, left-to-right. Landscape orientation means that the document is oriented sideways. The Reader can handle it either way as the image is oriented properly for processing by the internal Reader software.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:james.jolley1 at btinternet.com James Jolley
To:
mailto:reader-users at nfbnet.org Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
Sent:
Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:05 PM
Subject:
Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to haveportraitorrientation?
Hi,
Portrait orrientation just means that it can see all four edges of the
document. It will either say portrait or landscape orrientation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" < mailto:powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov
>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
< mailto:reader-users at nfbnet.org reader-users at nfbnet.org
>
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have
portraitorrientation?
> Hi Jim;
> Can you define portrait orientation?  I understand the other one that
> tells you about whether it sees the edges of the document.
> Thanks.
> Terry Powers
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Gashel [mailto:jim at knfbreader.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:35 PM
> To: 'Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list'
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have portrait
> orrientation?
>
> Hi James:
>
> It is not necessary to obtain portrait orientation or even to use the
> field
> of view report.  However, if there are times when I don't get the
> quality I
> am looking for, I may check my alignment before I take the picture
> again.
>
> If you don't have portrait orientation, it is possible that some of the
> print on the missing edge will be cut off.  In that event, the Reader
> may
> just omit reading you quite a bit of text.  The Reader does not try to
> read
> you partial words.  So, if some letters are cut off on the left side of
> the
> page, the Reader may end up skipping the entire line.
>
> Obviously, if the Reader reports not seeing the left edge, that doesn't
> necessarily mean that any of the text is cut off.  The Reader is
> reporting
> if the edge of the page is seen, not if the left edge of the words is
> seen.
> Therefore, it may be that some but not all of the margin is seen.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks, J. G.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Jolley
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:43 PM
> To: mailto:reader-users at nfbnet.org reader-users at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have portrait
> orrientation?
>
> Hi Jim and folks,
>
> I noted that Jim mentioned in one of his messages that he often gets
> portrait orrientation. I can't seem to get that all that much, but still
> get
> good results if the field of view says something to the effect of, "Top,
> bottom and right edges are visible, 60 percent filled".
>
> It seems to always work then. If it gives me something different like
> "top
> right and bottom edges are visible" I just move accross a bit to the
> left
> and see what comes of it. To be honest, I never really use the field of
> view
> to get it perfect, If it get 50 percent or more in, then alls fair.
>
> Is that just me or are many users the same?
>
> Best
>
> -James-
>
>
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