[Reader-users] Is it really necessaryto haveportraitorrientation?

Tue Jun 5 17:08:22 CDT 2007

Hi Terry:

Upgrades are provided on an SD (secure digital) card.  You will receive an
SD card with your Reader at the time of purchase.  Then, at the time of the
next upgrade, you will be able to download the new software from the
KNFBREADER.com website or get a replacement software card sent to you in the
mail.  In that event you will need to return the card that you already have.

Loading the software is very simple.  The Reader has a slot designed to
accept the SD card.  As soon as you press the card into the slot, the Reader
takes over and loads the newest version.  You don't have any decisions to
make.  

The Reader comes with one year of software upgrades free of charge.  After
the first year, there will probably be an annual maintenance charge, but we
haven't determined the price at this point.  I can assure you that, whatever
the charge is determined to be, it won't break the bank.  It will clearly be
worth it to keep your Reader up to date with the wonderful new capabilities
that will be coming along.  

Concerning repairs, The policy is to start with the dealer who sold or sells
you the Reader.  That dealer will get further assistance directly from K-NFB
Reading Technology if necessary.  All you need to be concerned with is
contacting your dealer.  

Thanks, J. g/.

-----Original Message-----
From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Powers, Terry
(NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:26 PM
To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessaryto
haveportraitorrientation?

Hi Jim G.;
Can you brief me on how upgrades are handled?  What is the cost.  How are
they received.  Also, how are repairs handled?  
Terry Powers
I have the costs of an m-power.  How much more can I handle.  My office is
taking care of my computer, thankfully.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Gashel [mailto:jim at knfbreader.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:18 PM
To: 'Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list'
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessaryto
haveportraitorrientation?

Hi James:

I don't believe, but I could be wrong, the field of view report loses its
accuracy because of graphics.  It is more likely that the dark portions of
pictures cause the value to drop.  This may change a bit as we begin to
implement "reverse video" in an upcoming software release.  

You should always remember that the field of view report is really only a
guide and not intended to be definitive.  There are certainly a great many
times when you get a perfectly good result in reading when the field of view
report indicates the screen is 20 percent filled or even less.  

Thanks, J. g.is smart enough to compute how much of the  

-----Original Message-----
From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Jolley
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:01 PM
To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to
haveportraitorrientation?

Hi Jim,

I didn't explain things properly. I meant that in some cases, it will tell
you that 20 per cent of the image is filled when in fact your aiming the
camera perfectly. This tends to happen a lot with magazines in wich there
are a lot of pictures surrounding the text. I think the field of view
removes the graphics and doesn't accurately tell you how well your aiming it
because of that.

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Gashel" <jim at knfbreader.com>
To: "'Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list'" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to
haveportraitorrientation?

> Hi James:
>
> I'm afraid I completely lost you on that part of your message below 
> where you suggest that the field of view report should do more with
pictures.
> You
> express that this will be forthcoming in a software update.
>
> I really don't know exactly what you mean.  The purpose for the field 
> of view report is to indicate if the camera is seeing all of the page.

> It is not and has never been intended to describe the layout of the 
> page or the pictures that may be on the page.
>
> I would generally say, if we can figure out a way to make the field of

> view report a bit shorter, that is what we should do.  Remember, when 
> you are using the field of view report you are generally holding the 
> reader above the page.  Most people want less, rather than more, 
> information so they don't have to hold the Reader while listening to a

> lengthy statement about what is being seen.
>
> Thanks, J. G.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Jolley
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:40 PM
> To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have 
> portraitorrientation?
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Very interesting to read your message. I only ever use it in really 
> critical situations and try to aim for 50 or more percent. Like I said

> in our oflist message, magazines are useless with the field of view 
> because it never takes into account pictures and things like that.
> Let's hope the next update can add more info to that report.
>
> All the best
>
> -James-
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Gashel" <jim at knfbreader.com>
> To: "'Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list'"
> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have portrait 
> orrientation?
>
>
>> Hi James:
>>
>> It is not necessary to obtain portrait orientation or even to use the

>> field of view report.  However, if there are times when I don't get 
>> the quality I am looking for, I may check my alignment before I take 
>> the picture again.
>>
>> If you don't have portrait orientation, it is possible that some of 
>> the print on the missing edge will be cut off.  In that event, the 
>> Reader may just omit reading you quite a bit of text.  The Reader 
>> does not try to read you partial words.  So, if some letters are cut 
>> off on the left side of the page, the Reader may end up skipping the 
>> entire line.
>>
>> Obviously, if the Reader reports not seeing the left edge, that 
>> doesn't necessarily mean that any of the text is cut off.  The Reader

>> is reporting if the edge of the page is seen, not if the left edge of

>> the words is seen.
>> Therefore, it may be that some but not all of the margin is seen.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Thanks, J. G.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Jolley
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:43 PM
>> To: reader-users at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have portrait 
>> orrientation?
>>
>> Hi Jim and folks,
>>
>> I noted that Jim mentioned in one of his messages that he often gets 
>> portrait orrientation. I can't seem to get that all that much, but 
>> still get good results if the field of view says something to the 
>> effect of, "Top, bottom and right edges are visible, 60 percent 
>> filled".
>>
>> It seems to always work then. If it gives me something different like

>> "top right and bottom edges are visible" I just move accross a bit to

>> the left and see what comes of it. To be honest, I never really use 
>> the field of view to get it perfect, If it get 50 percent or more in,

>> then alls fair.
>>
>> Is that just me or are many users the same?
>>
>> Best
>>
>> -James-
>>
>>
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