[Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have portraitorrientation?

[James Gashel]

Hi James:

I'm afraid I completely lost you on that part of your message below where
you suggest that the field of view report should do more with pictures.  You
express that this will be forthcoming in a software update.  

I really don't know exactly what you mean.  The purpose for the field of
view report is to indicate if the camera is seeing all of the page.  It is
not and has never been intended to describe the layout of the page or the
pictures that may be on the page.  

I would generally say, if we can figure out a way to make the field of view
report a bit shorter, that is what we should do.  Remember, when you are
using the field of view report you are generally holding the reader above
the page.  Most people want less, rather than more, information so they
don't have to hold the Reader while listening to a lengthy statement about
what is being seen.  

Thanks, J. G.


-----Original Message-----
From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Jolley
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:40 PM
To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have
portraitorrientation?

Hi Jim,

Very interesting to read your message. I only ever use it in really critical
situations and try to aim for 50 or more percent. Like I said in our oflist
message, magazines are useless with the field of view because it never takes
into account pictures and things like that. Let's hope the next update can
add more info to that report.

All the best

-James-

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Gashel" <jim at knfbreader.com>
To: "'Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list'" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have portrait
orrientation?


> Hi James:
>
> It is not necessary to obtain portrait orientation or even to use the 
> field of view report.  However, if there are times when I don't get 
> the quality I am looking for, I may check my alignment before I take 
> the picture again.
>
> If you don't have portrait orientation, it is possible that some of 
> the print on the missing edge will be cut off.  In that event, the 
> Reader may just omit reading you quite a bit of text.  The Reader does 
> not try to read you partial words.  So, if some letters are cut off on 
> the left side of the page, the Reader may end up skipping the entire 
> line.
>
> Obviously, if the Reader reports not seeing the left edge, that 
> doesn't necessarily mean that any of the text is cut off.  The Reader 
> is reporting if the edge of the page is seen, not if the left edge of 
> the words is seen.
> Therefore, it may be that some but not all of the margin is seen.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks, J. G.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Jolley
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:43 PM
> To: reader-users at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Reader-users] Is it really necessary to have portrait 
> orrientation?
>
> Hi Jim and folks,
>
> I noted that Jim mentioned in one of his messages that he often gets 
> portrait orrientation. I can't seem to get that all that much, but 
> still get good results if the field of view says something to the 
> effect of, "Top, bottom and right edges are visible, 60 percent 
> filled".
>
> It seems to always work then. If it gives me something different like 
> "top right and bottom edges are visible" I just move accross a bit to 
> the left and see what comes of it. To be honest, I never really use 
> the field of view to get it perfect, If it get 50 percent or more in, 
> then alls fair.
>
> Is that just me or are many users the same?
>
> Best
>
> -James-
>
>
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