[Reader-users] Software Upgrade

James Jolley james.jolley1 at btinternet.com
Fri Jul 6 02:25:43 CDT 2007 

This might sound stupid to you, but your the one that's looking stupid right 
now.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade


> Where would you go?  As far as I know, neither org has a list for winers
> only.
>
>
> Loren Wakefield
>
> "The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr. Forress C.
> Shaklee
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "James Jolley" <james.jolley1 at btinternet.com>
> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>
>
>> Excuse me,
>>
>> I made my views perfectly clear and as Jim stated that there were 
>> problems
>> with the initial release, i'm fine with that! Get off my back and get 
>> your
>> facts right before posting!
>>
>> Also, regarding weather i'd complain if there were problems with the
>> release, i'd only do that if the release damaged my unit for some reason
>> wich is unlikely. I may just leave this list entirely if this persists!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>
>>
>>> You're acting like you aren't going to get it at all, which isn't the
>>> case.  As I said in another message  my guess is that there isn't enough
>>> staff to handle two major conventions and a web update at once.
>>>
>>> If you get the update, have a problem, and ask for help, and don't get
>>> instant response, you will probably whine and complain about that too.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 07:45 AM 7/3/2007, you wrote:
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>It's not a question of wining or complaining - it's the concept. Why
>>>>should
>>>>convention attendies come first, it makes absolutely no sense. It 
>>>>today's
>>>>age of the web and access to downloads, it should have been up there if
>>>>not
>>>>before, as it became available to the convention users. your effectively
>>>>saying, if your not part of the convention, tough luck.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "Janet Coleman" <Janet.Coleman at Alltel.net>
>>>>To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>><reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:40 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Give me a break.  I paid for mine personally.  I never even considered
>>>>> attending the convention.  How long  will any of us have to wait?
>>>>> Maybe
>>>>> a
>>>>> month.  I waited considerably longer than that to have access to such
>>>>> a
>>>>> wonderful piece of technology.  I hardly think I  need to cry about
>>>>> waiting
>>>>> another month  or even another year.
>>>>> Janet
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin at kevinrj.net>
>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:18 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not only just what James said, but includes that. I actually
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> attend conventions, I don't want to use my vacation for those when I
>>>>>> have family and friends spread around I'd rather visit. Many knfb
>>>>>> reader
>>>>>> owners had their reader paid for by DVR andmay never be able to 
>>>>>> attend
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> convention, they are expensive. Not only are international customers
>>>>>> being forced to wait, but also Americans who may not be as 
>>>>>> financially
>>>>>> fortunate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James Jolley wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree to a point, but if the same thing was done over here in
>>>>>>> Britain,
>>>>>>> there would be an upraw. This is were the business moddle kind of
>>>>>>> falls
>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>> I think. why should your international market be left out in the
>>>>>>> cold?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -James-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Janet Coleman" <Janet.Coleman at Alltel.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:40 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for writing what I failed to write.  You are correct. Janet-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:30 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is probably an unpopular view, but I do not agree with this
>>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> thinking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We in the U.S. are blessed in many ways.  To say that a business
>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>> a jump to those who attend a particular event is at best,
>>>>>>>>> short-sighted.
>>>>>>>>> The people at KNFB are not the first, nor  will they be the last 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> something like this.  The object at a tradeshow is to draw people
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> booth.  And this is an incentive to come see them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now they have also created a huge clamour for this product.  And
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> the convention and the eventual posting afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Due to a number of things beyond my control, I also was not able 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> attend
>>>>>>>>> this year's dconvention.  So I am waiting as well.  But I do not
>>>>>>>>> blame
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> for introducing it where there are live people and plenty of them.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> convention of NFB and the social gathering of that other thing, 
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>> biggest opportunities for companies selling adaptive devices to
>>>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> consumers they  are targeting.  And if they choose to offer this 
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> incentive to come see them, then more power to them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Loren Wakefield
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr. Forress
>>>>>>>>> C.
>>>>>>>>> Shaklee
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> www.ultimatehealthwithtlc.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Joseph LaFauci" <joeleah at iquest.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Reader-Users at Nfbnet. Org" <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:52 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings all,
>>>>>>>>> I hope I was clear earlier.  I agree wholeheartedly with all of 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> comments.  I'm sure it is the most difficult for you folks outside
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> U.S.
>>>>>>>>> I was also saying that there are also many of us here in the 
>>>>>>>>> states
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same boat.  I think KNFB should have posted the upgrade on the web
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>> they left for Atlanta if it was ready.
>>>>>>>>> Maybe there are still people back at KNFB who will post it soon. 
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>>> I think it will be a good upgrade based on Jim's description.
>>>>>>>>> I am especially enthusiastic about the ability to read different
>>>>>>>>> colored
>>>>>>>>> text on different backgrounds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joseph LaFauci
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: joeleah at iquest.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.joeleah.com <http://www.joeleah.com/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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